Military Thinking MT1

Hanno Kleinecke
Very interesting Rui ! Can you provide a link to the youtube vid ?

Rui S
Thx Hanno. I've done the translation now.
Well, there are lot's of videos about this. but this one have the known images I was thinking about.

Youtube Video

Choppa Nutta
Cool 👍 🙂

Choppa Nutta
I look forward to next weeks episode of "Tactics in Detail" 😄

Rui S
Hum, Thx for your vote of confidence, Choppa. but no order of Battle first? No German tank design evolution (just some color plates?) Straight to Tactics in Detail? 🤔 no insights about manoeuvring a Ferdinand/Elephant Panzerjager? let's not put the wagon in front of the donkeys. pls😉

Choppa Nutta
er, yes all of that too, what ever you think the next episode should be 🙂
I want this to be a "from the ground up" experience, a chronological connection of the dots as it were 🙂

Holger Kranich
Hi Guys, I´d like to contribute with you. This is a theme i think is very interesting!

Rui S
@ Choppa, Ok I'm counting with you😉
Hi, Holger, you are most welcome mate 👍

Choppa Nutta

One thought occurs though, perhaps you could change this album title to "Military Thinking"

that way we can cover anything regarding the minds of designers of machines, camo patterns as well as tactics, stategies and the rest of the problem solving that was under taken,
the things we wouldn't think of 🙂

If I remember rightly you were in the forces, would be interesting to here your take on these things 🙂

Rui S
Hi Choppa. Ok "Military Thinking" will be. 🙂 JUST ADDED SOME NUMBERS, AND CLOSE-UP COLOR PLATES AND PHOTOS OF THE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED PLAYERS

Choppa Nutta
Nice 🙂

Choppa Nutta
cool looking forward to it 🙂

I was wondering about how the Americans started using only one insignia on their wings rather than two like everyone else. I take it this was to aid recognition ?

Rui S
Be welcome Michael.
NOW FOR, A VIEW OF GERMAN PANZER EVOLUTION IN EARLY WWII.
MIDDLE AND LATE WWII COMING SOON.
I hope you mates like it😎😉

Choppa Nutta
Grumman Aircraft Designers

Youtube Video

Rui S
Now the saga is complete with the main players.😢 Just added middle and late WWII tanks.
All plates and information were obtained from my book stash. 🙂
Hope someone find it interesting.8)😉

Bart Goesaert
very interesting subject, thx a lot for the info...

Kerry COX
Well, what a memory this guy has and what a fascinating video. Thanks for posting it Rui. 🙂

Rui S
@Bart, this thread "pretends" 😛 to open up discussions about Military subjects so, be welcome for your opinion, or suggestions about it🙂
@ Kezza, it was Choppa that post the video (as could be any mate) so, the thanks is for him. thx anyway.😉😎

Kerry COX
So I did get it right first time, as I went back and changed it Doh. My face looks good with eggs LOL 🙂

Soeren R.
What a great idea Rui!

Choppa Nutta
Well I think we can all thank Rui for putting this album together and makingthe effort to bring this subject to the table of discussion, despite his sweet modesty 🙂

Anyhow I found this video on ariel combat "mono a mono" basics, informative and quite detailed, I've not seen anything like this before and is exactly the kind of thing I was hoping to find !!
So thanks Rui for creating this thread, even if you did take some persuading to do it !! 😄

Anyhow, group hug over and on to the videos 😄

Youtube Video

Another one but not as in depth

Youtube Video

Kerry COX
Now you know why fast jet pilots are so bloody arrogant, and it's because to be one, your special. 😉

Choppa Nutta
It's not arrogance, it's confidence ?
I suppose to go into a deadly combat scenario you need an over inflated sense of your survival chances otherwise you would never enter the arena if you felt you were doomed from the beginning, although that didn't stop a few of them who may have had high scores but inevitably short lives.

Knowing when to retreat to fight another day is an important tactical choice, one not lost on Sun Tzu or Niccolo Machiavelli in their respective books "The Art of War"

Rui S
Hi mates, @ Kezza, yes you got it right first time 😄
@ Soeren, thx for your encouragement 😄 I will divide it with Choppa, because it was from a thread from him that I comment, and a debate from both of us, that this idea was thought about. I Hope it will catch the mates interest😎😉
@ Choppa, I would say is A VITAL TACTICAL CHOICE, in WWII Stalingrad, is an example. One huge example of the consequences of arrogant behaviour.

Rui S
NOW, ANOTHER CONTRIBUTION FOR A VIEW OF GERMAN PANZER EVOLUTION IN WWII.
From the Book, Panzer - A Revolution in Warfare.
I hope you mates like it😎😉

Rui S
NOW, some insights about GERMAN PANZER IN WWII, and it's guns.
Hope you mates like it😎😉

Choppa Nutta
Cool, I think I'll take the "Pzkpfw V Panther A/G" please,
Steel wheel version of course 🙂

Rui S
Well Ok, but where are you going? don't you forget that it consumes petrol not diesel😉 😄

Choppa Nutta
Oh you know, to the shops and back😉

Rui S
LLLOOOLLL, you don't need such a big gun for that. Are you going to rob them 😮 ? hehehe

Choppa Nutta
yeah, I want to go on a Ram Raiding Mission and crush lots of cars and pull a few ATM machines out of the wall 🙂

Rui S
Mate, No can do 😄 You better take the faster Pz II 👍 More than enough.8)

Rui S
NOW, some insights about PANZER DETAILS, Tracks and side skirts.
Hope you mates like it😎😉

Rui S
NOW, comparatives between:
- Panzer IV and Char B1 Bis;
- Panzer III and a T34;
- Panzer VI and a KV85.
Hope you mates like it😎😉

Choppa Nutta
there's some great stuff there dude !!
Nice one 🙂
Though some translations would be awesomely handy 😄
interesting comparison charts

Rui S
Thx, Choppa😉

Rui S
NOW, comparatives between:
- Panzer IV and Char B1 Bis;
- Panzer III and a T 34;
- Panzer V and a JS 3;
- Panzer VI Tiger and a KV 85;
- Panzer VI Tiger II and a JS - 2M
From Trucks&Tanks Magazine. Hope you mates like it😎😉

Rui S
NOW, some data from Barbarossa, WWII Evolution, tank production and Lend-Lease figures.
Hope you mates find it interesting😎😉

Rui S
Just trying to help, Kerber😎😉

Kerber
thank You! Appreciate that!

Rui S
Some Panzerjäger I😎😉

Rui S
A brown/grey Bison I😎😉

Choppa Nutta
🙂

Youtube Video

Rui S
NOW, a contribution, just as a little more salt to a already large appetite for the He-219 "Uhu" Groupbuild.
Hope you mates find it interesting😎😉

Holger Kranich
Yeah cool! Thats nice and handsome😄

Rui S
Thx Holger, glad you like it 👍

Holger Kranich
Yep i do! Much appreciated!

Kerry COX
Rui, A most interesting post. Thanks mate. 🙂

Rui S
@Holger, My pleasure mate.
Thx, Kerry. Glad that it was interesting to you 🙂

Rui S
NOW, some more photos and insights on the subject.
Hope you mates find it interesting😎😉

Kerry COX
I am needing all the info on the Owl I can find.
I have found some fantastic builds and I will be downloading all I can find that will help me in the GB. 🙂

Rui S
Yes, I understand it, Kezza and usually I do the same. That's why I'm contributing here for the mates in this interesting GB.
I'm not looking in the net, but only on my book stash, trying to post some original or different photos. At least, that is my wish😉

Choppa Nutta
this is turning out to be a great album 👍 🙂

Kerry COX
What a great thing you are doing for your mates Rui.
We all say a big thank you for your effort champ. 🙂 👍.

Rui S
Thx, Choppa and Kerry for your encouraging words. Just trying my best, mates. My pleasure 👍

Rui S
NOW, 3 more photos and insights on the subject.
Hope you mates find them interesting😎😉

Holger Kranich
Thank you very much Rui! Thats what the groupbuild dudes need!😄

Rui S
Thx, Holger. I hope you are right 👍
Do not ask what scalemates can do for you, ask what you can do for scalemates hehehe😉

Rui S
NOW, a few more interesting photos, insights and finally a colour plate on the subject.
Hope you Mates and maybe some groupbuild dudes find them interesting😎😉

Rui S
Naahhhh, maybe not worth the effort or time. 👎
Better keep to the styrene. I wonder if the same can be all over the net, or at hand. 🤔

Choppa Nutta
???

Rui S
What?

Clifford Keesler
Is there an HE-219 group build going on that I don't know about?

Choppa Nutta
"Naahhhh, maybe not worth the effort or time" ??
are you replying to a comment I can't see ? 🙂

Yes Cliff 🙂

Clifford Keesler
Darn I love the HE-219. One of my favorite WWII aircraft.

Rui S
Naahhh, I'm just let off steam, in public 🙁 really should be completing all the styrene I've on hold, and practice more to evolve . 🤔

Choppa Nutta
yes you should you naughty boy !!!!!! 😄

btw what projects have you got going at the mo ?

Rui S
Hehehe, Well just some old ones(as usual) from Esci and Italeri. OOB, but with oils and pigments. LoL

Sd.Kfz.10/4 | Project by mig (1:35)

Holger Kranich
Hey Cliffy, you are welcome to sign in: He-219 "Uhu" Groupbuild (13. September, )

Rui S
Hi Holgher. He will as soon as he get's his hands on one Uhu 😄😉

Kerry COX
Or take his hands off something. LOL 🙂 👍

Rui S
hehehe 😄, That I don't know...

Kerry COX
LOL 🙂

Rui S
NOW, interesting facts and well-known or not, 2 more colour plates on the subject😎😉

Kerry COX
Rui never sleeps mates, he has "insomnia modelitis". 🙂

Rui S
Shhhiiiuu...!!! Kezza, that's a thing for no one to notice.😎 😄
Later, I've some data and an insight of the 219 Designer. Not from the wikipedia.😉 cheers 🙂

Kerry COX
Your my hero Rui. Your tireless in getting what is important to all of us for the GB.
Salute. 🙂 👍

Rui S
Hehehe thx for that mate. 👍
"At least" in this subject, if it's for you, Choopa, and Holger, I expect to contribute with something interesting 😄

Kerry COX
We could not ask for anything greater than what you are doing for the Scalemate community Rui.
It is all of us that benefit by what you are doing.🙂
Thanks again. 🙂

Choppa Nutta
..... plus, the subject is interesting 🙂

Kerry COX
Dammed right Choppa. 🙂

Rui S
NOW as said, form the book:
German Aircraft Industry and Production 1933-1945_First published in the UK in 1998 by Airlife Publishing Ltd,
Some data and an insight of the 219 Designer.
Hope You Mates like it😎😉

Holger Kranich
And again very nice pix of this beautiful aircraft! Many THX😄

Rui S
Hi, Holger. Thx a lot for your nice comment, 👍 Much appreciated😉

Bart Goesaert
Youtube Video Kz0a _ Q G i f P M

Link doesn't work for some reason, added spaces after the underscore to provide the link, so please remove these if you want to watch..

Choppa Nutta
link working normally for me 🙂

Rui S
Hi, I can't see it even without the spaces, and Google don,t find it

Rui S
NOW for the HETZER builders out there: The Jagdpanzer 38 t TD Company, by Jarnes Steuard
Hope You Mates like it😎😉

Choppa Nutta
..... I'm glad you're keeping this album going Rui 👍 🙂

Oscar Oertly
awesome !!

Rui S
Hi, Choppa, thx you know me Mate, I do not easily give up.
@ Oscar, Thx, glad you like it, much appreciated...
Just a little update with more info and plates from the Trucks & Tanks magazine

John Van Kooten
I agree with Choppa! Glad you keep this going! 👍

And I am one of those Hetzer builders currently 😛 Excellent, concise information! Top notch 👍 Thank you!

Rui S
Hi John, Yes I've been following your albums. Real glad you find it interesting and thank you for your nice comment. Much appreciated.

Vegard Øksenholt
Great deal of He219 references here. Thank you for sharing!

Rui S
Hi Vegard, Nice to know that you liked them, and that I can help. My pleasure. THX a lot for your pleasant comment.

Kerry COX
Rui, you have been most important here, as I am still looking for more info on the colouring of the plumbing on the DB603 engines, and I am wondering if your special talents and know how would be able to find something on that matter I have searched in vain for mate. 🙂 👍.

Rui S
No special talents here Kezza, (except perhaps the urge to contribute with something useful) like researching in my reference books/magazines, but sadly no colour photos in most of them.
I will try anyway.

Kerry COX
Rui, I am always grateful for your efforts and contributions mate. A vital cog in the fine workings you might say. 🙂 👍

Rui S
You'r to kind Kezza, but Thx a lot for your nice comment.

Rui S
NOW a few more photos on the UHU
Photos #80 to #93 some of the motor, good for the ZM builders

Well I also think you mates of the UHU GB will like to take a look at this site:

warbirdphotographs.c..fephotos/lhe2191.htm

Hope they can help 😎 😉

Vegard Øksenholt
This album is now bookmarked in my browser. Thank you for keeping on giving us this precious info, Rui 👍

Rui S
Be welcome Vegard, I'm flattered, THX

Kerry COX
Rui, You have become our "Go to guy" as you do have a great research know how mate. 🙂

Rui S
LOL, THX Mate. I will try not to disappoint you mates.

Kerry COX
Hahaha, no fear of that happening Rui. 🙂

Rui S
hey, not easy mate, hehehe
Scalemates has lots of expert people in many topic's, and I'm just an enthusiastic.

So the next post will be about another interesting discussion for German AFV fans.
Some German tank track's colour photos.

Choppa Nutta
I remember back when you first got this album going Rui how worried you were that no one would appreciate it, told ya all was good😉

Rui S
Off course you remember Mate, you where it's mentor.
I remember how and why it was born, our discussions about it, and my copyright worries, etc.
You made it happen Choppa, and I thank you for your pressure to get it going. THX

Choppa Nutta
..............actually........... Twas you that made it happen 😄

Kerry COX
To have a Military thinking based "Reference Library" within the bounds of Scalemates is just what we all need Rui. 🙂
It beats the hell out of trying to do it all by ourselves. 🙂

Rui S
I understand Kezza, and Thx a lot for the support, but researching Is also part of the Hobby we all Love.
I only intend to support and had or induce more discussions and keep it alive with exchange of views with the mates. That's my only intention, participate and contribute.
I have an extensive "Reference Library" especially on German AFV (not all in my scalemates stash yet), that I collect for years now, and I'm more than happy if I can share it with whoever want.
So my pleasure.

Kerry COX
A fair call Rui, and I may have sounded like that is what I would like to see you do. 🙁
I was wrong to assume any thing like that from you, sorry mate. 🙂
It is vital that we do as much as we can ourselves no doubt.🙂
I must admit, that when I find something I think may be of interest to all the Mate's here, I will be posting it for all to benefit by.
Just slap me when I do that in future mate. 🙂 🙂 🙂

Rui S
No worries Kezza, it's all about reciprocity, so no slapping in this thread, hehehe . As I said, my pleasure.

Kerry COX
;-/

Rui S
NOW a few more photos on the UHU
Photos #94to #109 some of the cockpit.
Hope they can help😎😉

Kerry COX
Always a help Mr Rui S, 🙂.
As I am trying to get as much detail effect in the ZM Uhu, These will help nicely mate, 🙂

Rui S
Thx Mate.
New ones from #100 to #107
Hope they can help😎😉

Kerry COX
Each and every one is just so full of stuff I knew nothing of Rui. Thnx again mate. A great help they are. 🙂

Rui S
Hi Kezza. I hope I don't overwhelm you with information Mate. hehehe.

Kerry COX
Rui, I don't want you to miss out on building your models mate. as all this time researching is cutting into your own personal time mate. 🙁
There are not enough words to use that can describe how grateful I am for all you are doing, but your own time for you is important too my brother. 🙂
And the information I have now will make sure I have no excuse for producing a poor quality build. 🙂

Rui S
Hey Mate, no prob, as said before my pleasure.

You? producing a poor quality build?? You must be joking.

I found also some 20 beautiful colour plates of the Owl.
But the following site, is making me stop posting more photos of the UHU restoration:

wingsontheweb.com/wo..5D=625&simul=100

I'm sure you and maybe other mates in GB will like it.

Kerry COX
Cheers again to you Rui, your a champion. 🙂

Kerry COX
Shit. !!!! Just had a look at the link you posted. !!!! Astounding find Rui. 🙂 👍

Rui S
Hehehe, THX.

Rui S
@Urban Gardini, Hunter Cummins, Jan Hazes, John Van Kooten, Martin, Bart Goesaert.
Following the Urban "Neglected Kit Resurrection Groupbuild" album discussions, about GERMAN TRACK COLOURS, I post some photos about the subject.
Hope you mates like them😎😉

Urban Gardini
Thanks mate! I just remembered another colour I've wondered about for some time. The German heat proof grey primer that they used on the gun barrels, sometimes without additional camouflage paint over the primer on replacement barrels. What grey colour is the correct one?

Rui S
Thx for commenting Urban.

I used Humbrol 66, in my Panther:

Gniloy-Tikich | Album by mig (1:35)

I will search in the AK interactive, MIG Jimenez, extensive Catalogues for some hint, and let you know if I find something.

But as you know, I'm more in the opinion that the correct one, is the one you chose as convincing and like the result.

Rui S
Hey Urban, for that matter take a look at photos 143 and 144

or:

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facebook.com/5097917..635361871959/?type=1

The Tiger Pit 4. Barrel painted representing the heat resistant primer. German Grey base followed by a lighter mix adding Medium Blue.

or:

Rui S
@ Urban, nothing special about this in the catalogues. They just mention RED PRIMER MODULATION SET's. No grey.
I've read some forums and most speak about a dark satin grey. Maybe more like Humbrol 67 with a few drops of gloss varnish???

Urban Gardini
I know that there's no dedicated paint out there.

John Van Kooten
The general consensus on barrel color is dunkelgrau and dunkelgelb lacquer, both heat resistant. Both in a satin finish.

Both colors can be observed in many original WWII photos. The dunkelgrau on many tanks on active duty in the field. The dunkelgelb barrels can, f.i., be seen on turrets in progress of being build that are still in the factories that were overrun by the Americans.

Exactly which (RAL) colors they were is unknown. There is not a shred of evidence or documentation that describes the methods and colors used for applying the heat resistent lacquer coating.

I have been searching for information on this for a long time (years ago) but I gave up. I could not find anything in any of the authorative books (and I have several hundreds of highly technical books). I think no one knows for sure, other than stuff from hearsay, made up facts or educated guesses. And I have put my trust in the last option because it is possible to deduct at least some info from original (non-colorized) WWII photos and recovered original vehicles.

Rui S
Thx a lot John, for your nice and informative comments.

Roberto Rocat
Great post and really interesting comments. Thanks, mates.

Rui S
Glad to know you like them . Thx Roberto

Rui S
Now, some nice colour plates from the "Owl"
Plates #114 to #122
Hope you mates in the GB like them😎😉

John E
Holy cow! Great pics and plates!!! Thank you, Rui!

Rui S
Hi John, Thank you very much for your nice comment, and be welcome to MT

Kerry COX
Rui, I was looking through the coloured cammo plates you posted and I came across this colour scheme that really gets my juices flowing mate, so I wrote down all the details and searched Google "Images" and this is what I ended up finding. LOL 🙂
asisbiz.com/Luftwaffe/njg1.html

Rui S
Hehehe, Nice. Wich coloured cammo plate are you loving Kezza. LOL

That is a hell of a site mate, trying to find photos or colour lates of the UHU in there but I think:
"Houston, We Have a Problem" lol
But for the Messerschmitt fans it as great colour photos, Mate

Kerry COX
Image 117, and the one in the middle with the black belly and spots of RLM 75 over RLM 76 🙂
Serial G9+TH (W.Nr.290123) Oh! Oh! Oh!. I love it . 🙂
But on the link I sent you, there are endless cammo schemes. !!!

Rui S
Ahh Ok. Camos of the UHU 219?? I'm still trying to find them.

Rui S
Again great site, well done Mate, you rock.
Thx a lot for that finding, is now in my favourites.

Rui S
@ Urbam, that's what I found so far.
Hope it helps.
If you need more info just tell.

Urban Gardini
Thanks mate! The colour profiles at #172-173 is the first ones that I've seen that in fact looks like the Moscow photos of Black 745. Interesting to see the crude zimmerit on the refitted Ausf. D (#175-176) to a befehlspanther. #180 is also a good reference photo of an Ausf. D refitted with late type tracks, a good photo for all builders that wanna do a different Ausf. D.

Rui S
Be welcome, Urban.
So do the plate 173 (zoom in the tracks), and the other (no mentioned) photos helped clarify your doubts or you need more info?
I didn't put some walk around colour photos because I simply don't trust that kind of info.

Urban Gardini
I never trust colour plates but this one do resemble the actual photos of Black 745. Tamiya have it wrong with red brown as well as oliv green camouflage spots in their kit description. It should only have green spots over the dunkelgelb so the colour plate looks fairly good. Yes, the track photos helped me so once again thanks mate!

Urban Gardini
But the colour plate have one thing wrong, an error that Dragon have made as well and that Tamiya got right in their kit. Dual headlights.

Rui S
Ok, Urban.
Glad I could help with that track question. That was my intention.
I really like good colour plates and having find those of your subject project, I thought you would also like them. I think you will correct that error whit no problems.
Thx, also for your info.

Urban Gardini
I did find that one out from the beginning so I did in fact correct that error back in 2008 when I started the kit so there's no problems there for me.

Rui S
Just this new colour plate regarding the DV DI, UHU plane

Kerry COX
Rui, I see there is an other wonderful 'find' of yours you have posted. 🙂
I often wondered what it would have been like, to have been there and seen all these different cammo patterns in the flesh. :-/
I should imagine that it was more the crews doing in the application of the 'war paint'. 🙂

Rui S
Hi Mate, Thx again.
Sometimes I think also about that but I also think being there, would have been like hell, if you know what I mean...

Kerry COX
Rui. 🙂 Exciting to say the least mate, as they were all keen to be there. 🙂

Rui S
Yes, they where also very well indoctrinated since the beginning.

Rui S
@Bart, I'm not sure about what you mean mate?

Urban Gardini
Even if he could it wouldn't be ok to put a pirated pdf on Scalemates, let's keep Scalemates clean and law abiding!

Rui S
How, Urban, so it was that what Bart intended? Thx for the heads up Mate.
Good to see that the comment is erased.

Urban Gardini
It was a link to what looked like a Russian pirate publication site and some kind of publication that showed an AMS build of an Uhu but with dead dl links. You can't keep people from downloading and give each others pirated magazines but as long as it happens outside Scalemate it's no problem here but the moment pirated stuff appears here on Scalemates there's bound to be a lot of problems for Tim as well for Scalemates and we do not want that to happen.

Rui S
Of course we don't want that.
Btw, I would like t know if you do think putting here scanned color plates, photos or txt, even with the source mentioned (and thus offering some publicity to it) is wrong? because that's what this "MT" album and thread is all about, collecting interesting information and provide it to help mates, and promote some discussions.
Are we allowed to legally for reference & review as we're not profiting from it?

Urban Gardini
It's a grey zone. It's not strictly ok as it violates copyrights but on the other hand it's non profit.

Rui S
The profit is for the authors and publishers that have their work and issues publicized For Free, in the greatest modelling site in the world, just like the kit manufactures do.

Choppa Nutta
........ It is grey area but you're allowed to post up such stuff Rui if it is for reference or review, the key feature here being non profit, just as long as you don't provide the entire work in an easy to click single download etc. and that you keep on cherry picking the relevant bits you need etc. it should be no problem 🙂

Wouldn't want to get to bogged down in the petty side of the copyright, I think as you're not flagrantly abusing the law you should be fine 🙂

Rui S
Hi Choppa, Thx again for your support Mate.
I like the "cherry picking" useful reference information part. hehe.

Rui S
@ John, that's what I found so far:
From:
Batailles et Blindes magazine;
Concord;
Clausewitz Magazin;
Panzerschlacht, Helion & Company Limited.
The only Tiger II, with ambush scheme I found in the East Front (Until now), is the one in photo 185, and another numbered 211, Feldherrnhalle's also in Hungary but in 1945. All the others where in the west.
If you extend the time frame until 1945, you get other, S.PZ.Abt in the East Front.

Hope it helps.

Donald Medley
Beautiful Build Rui S, don't give a shit what anyone says. Don🙂

Choppa Nutta
rebel rebel !! 😄

Rui S
Hi Donald, Thx for the support Mate.
@ Choppa. I will keep it calm, hehehe...

Choppa Nutta
I was replying to Donalds rebellion 😄

Rui S
OOHH OK Mate.
rebel rebel Donald !! hehehe

Rui S
@John! Nice know that I could help.
So, you go for the "3/501". Is that the one in photo 183???
If yes, I will Look for more information and photos about it.
Cheers

Rui S
More Historic info on the Schwere Panzerabteilung 501 – August 1944.
Nothing extensive or pedantic, but simple info.
Hope it helps a bit more.

John Dunbar
@Rui I like the No. "313" / Photo 182 best. (actually I'd like to build all of them 😉 )
But I'll start with the one from photo 182. If you do have more information I'd really appreciate it. But no hurry. I'm already far better off by now then I was last week. :-D

Rui S
Ahh Ok, John, I miss understand the subject.
I will do further research on that one and add here.
Cheers

Rui S
Hi John, Now we know the commanders name of the 313, in 14/12/1944.

Also, from The Aberjona Press, "Sledgehammers" Some history about the Tiger II, and the 501 S.PZ.Abt, in Poland - August 1944. I found it very interesting.

And another intriguing colour plate from the Waldemar Trojka, "Tigers in colour", that could be the same 313, the position of the numbers it's similar but the colour is different and also the camo pattern.

Cheers

John Dunbar
Hey Rui, thank you for the additional info! Where do you find all that stuff? 🙂
You must have an excellent libary!!
The historical background you posted is very valueable!!! I yet have to read it but I'll try to find out if and what Tiger II had engine problems. That's the one then! I really owe you one mate!

Rui S
Hi, John, Thx for your nice words mate and be welcome. Glad to know that you also find the info valueable.
You don't owe me nothing my pleasure.
I've been collecting my library for ages. And I'm still looking for more valuable information about this interesting subject, I'm even getting a bit motivated to start the Tamiya Tiger II, in my stash. hehehe, So thank you too.
Found another similar colour plate similar to the first one, and some of the 311 and 312 tanks. Same company, platoon, time and place.
First photos, one of the 311 but a bit later.
Cheers

Rui S
@ John, as agreed in your PM, I post NOW a broader historical framework of S.PZ.Abt 501, from June 22, Operation BAGRATION till the end.
I find it very interesting, and I hope some mates also consider it.
Also the first photo of the 313.👍 👍 👍. So Zimmerit on it mate.
Cheers

John Dunbar
@ Rui Rui, this is so awesome! Thank you for the pictures! And yes, Zimmerit it is! 🙂
The picture with 314 looks very interesting! Maybe that's a compromise to the heavy maintenance picture...

Rui S
Hi Mate,
Glad to help.
All the hew photos are from S.PZ.Abt 501
If you remember anything more interesting to search just tell.
I'm looking forward for photos in your project thread.
Cheers

Rui S
NOW,
A CONTRIBUTION (IN COLOUR PLATES), ABOUT GERMAN AMMUNITION IN WWII.
I hope some mates like it😎😉

John Dunbar
Hey Rui, this is great! Thx!
Gotta paint my Tiger-Ammo then 😉

Kerry COX
Rui, you should ask a small fee for what you do for all of us, as I would be happy to contribute mate. 🙂 👍

Matthias Weiss
Very interesting, Rui, thx. for sharing. 👍
Really interesting information and pictures.

Rui S
Hey Mates, I'm very Happy to receive your comments and to find that you considered the info interesting. So, thank you very much.
@Kezza, hehehe, as I said before it's my pleasure Mate. All the mates comments here, is what motivates me keeping this thread alive and kicking.
This chapter was inspired by Reinhart, 7,5 cm Pack 40/4 auf RSO project.
Cheers Mates.

Kerry COX
Rui, inspiration all round mate. 🙂 👍 👍

Rui S
So true Kezza, you are dam right hehe, and I was hopping that this chapter would interest all German AFV, artillery and anti-tank fans like myself.
Two more images, on this chapter.

Kerry COX
Rui, That link, "Histomil" I sent you has heaps of images of German Armour of all kinds.
What ever your looking for there, just type in to the search window what you have a mind to see, and it will link or reference you to the spot.
Try it.🙂
histomil.com/index.php

Rui S
It's in my favourites, and Yap, some great unknown photos too. Thx , Mate

Kerry COX
kool. 🙂

Rui S
NOW
SOME INTERESTING CONVERSIONS, inspired by M.Julian Marles, Pakwagen T-34 1943/76 (r)
Pakwagen T-34 1943/76 (r) | Project by hetzer (1:35)
Cheers

M.Julian Marles
Excellent post, Rui! And thanks for your kind words. Of course the back story in my project description is pure fantasy, but similar stories of regular T34s being used until spare parts could no longer be sourced - or broken beyond repair- is well documented. Often the crews would blow up their own tanks, or set them alight. Usually a stick grenade or two in the breech and barrel would render the gun useless!😉

M.Julian Marles
BTW I have always been tempted to buy the Dragon T34 Flakpanzer but for some reason never bothered to! 😛

M.Julian Marles
I have the "History of s.Pz.Jag.-abt 503" book; it's amazing!

Rui S
Thx Mate glad you found it interesting.
Yap it's a great book Mate. There is also a T34 ammunition carrier in it.
I know that your history is a "what if" but as said in your thread I've been following it, Maybe the story of this one is "A wounded Flakartillerie commander,,," hehehe
I will be looking for more info about this INTERESTING CONVERSIONS... as well as your Project.
Cheers

M.Julian Marles
😢

Rui S
Some photos update in this last chapter INTERESTING CONVERSIONS.
IMHO, instead of the boggarts as Dragon, Tamiya do reissues of German 1/35, longstanding models kits and releases a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, of all Panzer jagd Flak, would not be much better to focus their efforts in launching new models not on the market (at least in plastic) replicating some of which are now added here?
From books:
- Gepanzerte Raritaten auf Radern und Ketten bis 1945;
- Beutepanzer unterm Balkenkreuz;
- Beute-Kraftfahrzeuge Panzer;
- Tanks of Hitlers Eastern Allies 1941-45.
Eg Tamiya releases a new Panther D (35345) much more detailed etc, but if you want to present it as a master piece in a show, the brand has the nerve to place on the market upgrades for the same kit intended to be atual ??? Thereby increasing their income with a more than seen and revised model worldwide?
It pleases me more when brands such as RPM, place on the market kit models never seen, even if not perfect (which as we all know does not exist). For example:

scalemates.com/kits/186401-r..uf-infanterie-schlepper-ue-f

or Mirage Hobby:

scalemates.com/kits/108252-m..7p-p-german-recovery-vehicle

or Roden:

scalemates.com/kits/266515-roden-807-opel-3-6-47-omnibus

It's just a matter of variety versus monotony, we were all pleased with the launch of a never presented model, or not?

I would like to know your opinions.
Cheers

Rui S
or MiniArt

scalemates.com/kits/256146-miniart-35177-gaz-aaa

or Riich.Models:

scalemates.com/kits/899537-r..if-5-maschinengewehrwagen-36

Just to show some examples.

Cheers

M.Julian Marles
I certainly like the unique kits that are out there. If you peruse my stash you will see I have almost twenty Mirage/RPM UE's in one form or another. I also own the Klara tractor and it's quite a nice kit, with options for the recovery jib or not. With a bit of plastic stock, foil, or PE these kits can certainly be made to be masterpices in their own right. I also have a bunch of old Maquette kits - yes - clunky, needing surgery, etc - but still some unique kits! 🙂

M.Julian Marles
Another fave of mine is the Pak 37mm on a British Universal carrier.😉 Easy to do and very cheap also!

M.Julian Marles
Don't forget the Mirage "Kubus" - what an odd little vehicle!

Rui S
Hi, M.Julian,
Yes we have to like them. I was just stating some of the different subjects.
I think there are a lot more out there and in other brands too, but also still lot's of unique subjects to produce as seen in some of the conversions photos posted.
Cheers

Rui S
I found this image in Modell Fan magazine.
I also added a the magazine caption on the previous photo.
I leave the main text translation to German speaking Mates.
I hope UHU GB mates like it😎😉
Cheers

Rui S
I found this image in Modell Fan magazine.
I also added a the magazine caption on the previous photo and a RLM chart for night fighters in the next one.
I leave the main text translation to German speaking Mates.
I hope UHU GB mates like it😎😉
Cheers

Kerry COX
Rui, I would love to buy you a beer for every snippet of information I have used successfully that you have found mate. Your amazing. 🙂 👍

Choppa Nutta
Rui you can expect about 30 crates of beer in the post from Australia soon 🙂

Kerry COX
LOL, Yeah, start my own XXXX export business. 🙂
Happy days. ! 👍. "😉

Holger Kranich
And i´ll send a few crates from Germany for this informations! 😄

Kerry COX
Holger, His information is just so helpful and accurate, a real research wizard mate. 🙂

Rui S
Hi Mates,
Thank you for your motivating words. Much appreciated and important to me.
It's nice to know that I'm also helping in a different and valuable way, but beware because I'm a beer lover, so I will enjoy tasting Australian and German beer, hehehe
Cheers

Kerry COX
Any time , any time, just name your poison. 🙂

Rui S
WHHOOO, Mate I've so many poisons, but lately I have not proven much styrene glue. 😄

Holger Kranich
Rui your efforts are much appreciated!

Rui S
THX, Holger 👍

Rui S
@John Dunbar, another photo from a 313, I can't guarantee that It's the one from the S.PZ.Abt 501, but it's interesting because shows the turret back.
Cheers

John Dunbar
@Rui Cool! Also a very good impression of the uniforms! Thx buddy!

Rui S
@John Dunbar, this photo is from a "313", belonging to the schwere Panzer Abteilung 503.

John Dunbar
Fair enough, I'll use it as a Zimmerit reference and the tank crew.

Rui S
NOW,
2 new photos of the UHU, one inside the hangar.
I hope UHU GB mates like it😎😉
Cheers

Andrew Eadon
Awesome reference material Rui, outstanding🙂

Rui S
Thank you very much Andrew, Your nice comment is much appreciated.
Cheers

Holger Kranich
I dont like it, Rui. I love it!👍

Rui S
hehehe, THX Holger, much appreciated.

Kerry COX
Rui, for once I can say to you mate, "already got it" LOL.🙂
And I am positive there are more out there. :-/
Cheers mate.🙂 👍

Rui S
Hi Mate, good for you, LOL. you saw the last one?
I'm sure there are many more.
This one was intended to Christian Bruer...
Cheers

Kerry COX
All is good. 🙂 👍

Urban Gardini
Went through the album again and noted one interesting thing. Look at the big difference in the track tension between the two StuG III's in photo #156.

Christian Bruer
Oh well guess someone called my name🙂
Mhhh photo 121 does not show all the detail of the hangar I would like to see but some more interesting things like the workbenches, engine racks, etc. Some more diorama ideas come to my mind Photo 122 and 123 were probably taken in Muenchen Riem.
Many thx Rui for your support and all the information you share with us - High Five!

Cheers, Christian

Rui S
@Urban, yes interesting, you are right. And the colour of them? almost like the entire stug.
@Christian, Oh, sorry to bother you mate hehehe, but I was trying to respond your call and catch your attention. Anyhow, nice that it motivate some more dio ideas. THX for the comments, much appreciated, High five.
Cheers

Kerry COX
Rui, Image 122 looks like it is a single seater. !
Is there any way of finding out if the Luftwaffe had single seat Uhu's ?
Or is that just a cover over the Equipment /radio section of the cockpit I wonder. ?

Holger Kranich
As far as i know, Luftwaffe had no single seater 219´s. But they planned a cockpitcrew of 3 with a tailgunner in a "Zerstörer" version. One has been produced. It was called He-219 B, or so.

Holger Kranich
From Wiki:
B-1: Nachtjäger mit 3-Mann-Kanzel und Jumo 222. Einziges Exemplar wurde in Wien-Schwechat erprobt und nach einem Landeunfall verschrottet

Nighthunter with 3 man cupola and Jumo 222. Only one has been tested in Wien-Schwechat (Vienna) and was scraped after a accident.

Kerry COX
Thanks Holger, I was a little worried there, but now you have said that, I wont attempt to do anything radical. :-/ 👍

Rui S
Hi Kerry and Holger,
Have you seen the image 44? there are a lot of 219 versions but none like the photo 122. I don't know if any is a single seater. And the image 106? it's a plan for a 4 seater.
Photo 122 looks kind like the one in photo 58. I will see more info in the plate 61, it just speak about 2 or 3 man seater's
Cheers

Kerry COX
Thanks Rui. Champ. !! 🙂

Rui S
A new chapter in the Military Thinking project posted on a second Album:

XII - GERMAN HANGAR INTERIORS / EXTERIOR MAINTENANCE WORK / SIMPLE CRANES

Military Thinking MT2 | Album by mig

Some reference images for the UHU GB, diorama builder's

I hope UHU GB and other mates like it 😎 😉
Cheers

Rui S
NOW on MT1:
Added from "Wings of the Luftwaffe":
- A new colour plate with caption for the 219 A-5 (Plate 112)
- The specifications on the 219 A-7 R2 (plate 116);
- some more new photos.
- Info on the 219 A cockpit;
- and An XR of the 219 A-5;

I hope UHU GB and other mates like it😎😉
Cheers

Kerry COX
Check your PM Rui. 🙂

Rui S
Translate the captions on the 47, 53, 74, 75 photos, thanks to Google translator.
Cheers

Rui S
Kezza, here they are, photos 71 to 77.
I'm guessing, this where the first model's or pre-production models so in 1943 only 11, HE 219 were built (see tables 55, 101)
Cheers

Kerry COX
Rui, I was thinking I was wrong, as the images I saw were of the He-117, but now, All is changed with what you have found. !!!
Wouldn't a 4 blade prop look 'grunty' on an Uhu. in 1/32 !?
I wonder where I would find something suitable. ?
Cheers mate, well done. 🙂

Rui S
Hi Kezza,

We have now 2 MT Albums in the Military Thinking Project. You can see them in the following link:
Military Thinking | Project by mig ()

The He-177 photos are in the MT2 album:
Military Thinking MT2 | Album by mig

But his one is the MT1 album, and the He219, 4 propeller were here.
That was the confusion Mate.

Kerry COX
Rui, I have just poured over all of you postings now mate, as I am finding a wealth of information that I am wanting to use in a dio I am planning for the Uhu, like the engine stands on wheels, and the crane and lifting gantry systems.:-O
The more I look, the more I see.
Thanks mate, I really appreciate your dedication. 🙂

Rui S
Hey Kezza, my pleasure. Glad they are useful.
I think I've read before that you where going to do a 1/32 dio.
I'm looking forward for more info about it. foe example:
Inside our outside environment, Mate? hehehe

Kerry COX
Rui, An 'outside' would offer greater scope for the field environment, almost like the B-17 dio, but I need to be different this time, so I am really contemplating the internal hanger scene, with overhead gantry, work benches along the walls, and all sorts of assorted trolleys, stands, and bits of a bird all under the wings.
Sound good. ?
Cheers mate. 🙂

Rui S
Sounds great Mate.
Pierre-Christian Baudru, is also making one but in 1/72. This is going to be interesting...

Kerry COX
Very Interesting. :-O

Rui S
@John Dunbar, another photo from a 313, I can't guarantee that It's the one from the S.PZ.Abt 501, but it's interesting because it shows your dio theme.
Cheers

John Dunbar
Cool! Thx a lot! 🙂

Matthias Weiss
I found some very interesting videos of WWII. Here an example, the battle of Normandy: Youtube Video
You can find many more here: youtube.com/channel/UCsLKywX28e0d9BoTfALKIcw
All in colour!!

Rui S
Nice colourised video and great link, Mate.
Impressive camouflage on the stug minute 3.33"
Thx for sharing

Rui S
NOW,
Adding in "MT1", some more images, details, colour plates, info, and a Link, for the HE 219 UHU GB. and aircraft fans:

warbirdphotographs.c..fephotos/lhe2191.htm

Hope you mates like them, and comment.
Cheers

Kerry COX
Rui, a good mate of mine just emailed this to me and I thought I should pass it on.
Enjoy mate, as I did. LOL 🙂 👍
video.navy.gov.au/pl..Br9Y3wSCSy7r3UuJLktM

Oliver Peissl
Wow, i am really thankfull for these great links!

Rui S
@Hi Kezza, Thx for sharing.
@Hello Oliver, THX for your comment. Glad you Like them, mate.

Kerry COX
Yeah, I'm still around. hahaha 🙂

Pierre-Christian Baudru
Very nice new pictures Rui, thanks a lot !😉

Rui S
Muito brigado, Pierre.
Sempre bem vindos os seus comentários.
@ Kezza, Yes I've noticed your absence for a few days. hehehe

Rui S
Another colour plate on the 313 Panzer VI Ausf. B

John Dunbar
Thanks Rui! 👍 🙂 Yet another cam scheme of 313. Must have been a replacement Tiger, no? I can't imagine that they applied complete repaints.

Rui S
Hi John,
Be welcome Mate.
I really can't say if it's that or a different interpretation from the colour plate author.
This new photo its interesting because if you zoom in enough you can see the leaf type image over the number as in the 228 colour plate.
Cheers

John Dunbar
This is indeed interesting! Do you think this is an official unit insignia or sth the crew applied themselves?

Rui S
Hi John
I just can tell, that I never saw it described as a unit insignia and normally unit insignias are much smaller.

John Dunbar
Hmm, alright. Then it's probably a personal note of the crew.

Rui S
Yes, I think so John. But if I find something more about it, I will post here.
Cheers

John Dunbar
Cool! Thx!

Clifford Keesler
Nice Rui thx,for sharing.

Rui S
Be welcome Clifford. My pleasure, mate.

Rui S
Schürzen with Ostketten.

John Dunbar
Hey Rui, great new stuff in MT! Thanks a lot!! 👍

Rui S
Hi John.
This post was already there, but thank you very much anyway for your nice comment. Glad you like it Mate

Rui S
@ Spanjaard,
Thank you for your comment.
You are not the first mate to say that the albums should be shorter.
That was why I created the MT2.
No I don't think that is possible to upload more than 6 photos at once.
My MT albums where mounted in various occasions but as you say it takes a lot of patience and care.
I always enjoy to share other mates interests with my reference books and magazines.😉
Also I take real pleasure helping mates, especially if with the same topic interest.😎

Zoltán Balogh
Nice collection Rui. Thank You for bringing my attention to it.

Rui S
Hi Zoltán,
Thank you for your comment, and be welcome.
The Military Thinking (MT) is for all mates that like mainly WW II German AFV themes like my self (but not only) and there are now already 4 MT😎

Rui S
The HE-219, PART I and PART II. A beautiful and innovative WWII aircraft.
I was really impressed with the length of the fuselage of this FIGHTER aircraft in 1/32 scale.