This model will represent USS Hancock CVA-19 in her Vietnam war appearance during her 2. Vietnam War Deployment from January 1967 till July 1967 with CVW-5 embarked.
The Air Group was much colorful and versatile with F-8 Crusader, A-1 Skyraider, A-3 Skywarrior, A-4 Skyhawk, E-1 Tracer and Seasprite Helicopters aboard.
CVA-11, CVA-14 and CVA-19 are nearly identical because they belonged to the first batch they underwent SCB-27 modernization in the early 50's and SCB-125 in the late 50's of the last century.
Deck layout, elevators, island, catapults etc. was still similar. Just the radar configuration as well as some minor hull details were different. I will come up with modifications only in areas noticeable, as was the radar layout to get a best as possible representation with just slightly modifications.
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Well first parts are cleaned up and assembled. Most of the parts just stick together. I only glued the hangar deck, some sponsons along the hangar deck level and bulwarks and side walls aft. All other parts, hangar deck side walls, flight deck, superstructure under the angled flight deck and the island are just prefixed to get a first overview.
All parts went together very well and there is just some minor filling and sanding to do, but not necessarily required. I fill and sand all the seams along the flight deck level and sponsons to get a smooth and straight surface. Some edges along the flight deck were incorrectly molded, so I repaired the edges by adding some flat styrene.
All in all it seems to me this will be a straightforward build, but a good planning is absolutely necessary to make sure to get the parts together well and to be able to reach all areas with paint.
24. December 2015 at 10:01:42
I will curiously follow the build! The hull and island seems to be very nicely detailed.
24. December 2015 at 10:47:38
Your build reports are addictive, Christian. Can't help it I have to follow.
24. December 2015 at 18:01:05
Thx for your interest
Yep Sven, details are very very nice on that kit. Next to hull and island the flight deck with the mix of steel and wooden planking is highly detailed and state of the art. Details are missing only inside the hangar deck, but you can get over it because you can't see much looking inside. I think I will just fill and sand some ejector pin markings beside the hangar doors and put some planes and stuff in front of the openings. I plan to let the starboard elevator in the down position with an aircraft on it and the port elevator in position of flight deck level.
By the way, Sven, according to the discussion about the correct dimension of the kit. They compared it to a Trumpeter WWII Essex and found out the kit seems to be to short aft of the island. But it seems the WWII Essex was a bit to long, what means the angled deck is just ok by only 1,5mm to short. Mhhh, hope I can live with that inaccuracy
May it is something of your interest. As mentioned you can build USS Ticonderoga and USS Hancock next to USS Intrepid out of this kit with just slightly modifications. For Tico and Hanna you have to remove the stern anchor mounting and not to add the fantail platform. Radar set should be the same with just one difference, Tico and Hanna had a AN/SPS-43 instead an AN/SPS-37 long range radar, so you have to replace the bed spring antenna.
25. December 2015 at 09:41:52
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25. December 2015 at 10:08:17
Thanks for your short evaluation of the kit with its potential for her sisters. Now as I see this build log it brings me closer to this kit. Unfortunately there are still too many other kits an the workbench who want to be finished yet.
25. December 2015 at 10:25:39
26. December 2015 at 09:10:01
26. December 2015 at 10:21:54
Alles nur fake
ist so gut wie noch nichts geklebt - aber wirkt, nicht wahr
26. December 2015 at 10:23:50
Oh das ist ja ein Vollrumpf! Ja, wirkt echt schon sehr !
26. December 2015 at 10:53:56
Last two sponsons are filled and sanded. The opening for the bow anchor was closed using flat styrene. The contour was first cut out using a sharp Xacto and than shaped using small files and sanding paper. Last I add a coat of filler and just wait till it dries to shape it finally. Some more photos attached to show the main progress as mentioned before – hangar deck, aft upper works and sponsons still attached and glued in place. Rest is still snap fit. I can't resist and filled all the ejector pin marks etc. inside the hangar walls. Some more sanding to do tomorrow
27. December 2015 at 18:04:50
27. December 2015 at 20:31:52
This looks very promising.
So I´ll take myself a seat...
28. December 2015 at 11:09:16
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28. December 2015 at 15:41:44
Thx Gentleman, glad you like it. I was very pleased for all your very kind comments for my still basic WIP on that ship.
All Hangar side walls are cleaned up and glued in place. The fit was well, but I have to fill some minor gaps along the seam line to the hangar deck with PVA glue. Before I can add the superstructure below the angled flight deck I have to add the railings along the sponsons because you'll never reach them later.
@Holy, no beer, CV's are dry ships
28. December 2015 at 19:04:17
Seems like I missed the start of a very interesting project. Impressive kit. I recently got the USS Wasp (LHD-1) so I have a good feeling for the size
31. December 2015 at 08:14:27
No problem, will take a while
Yep, they are nearly of the same size. But even big ships they are small compared to the latest CV's.
Yesterday I start working on the Airwing I'd like to use. I cut out all the resin A-1, A-4 and F-8 and start building the A-3, E-1 and Seasprite. A first arrangement was made for a further discussion with one of my shipmates who is well with CV aviation and aircraft handling on carriers. I will post some photos once I'm sure how to put all the tiny planes ontop of my flattop.
I guess all in all I'll need 50 aero planes of the types to make it busy aboard. A project inside of a project.
Cheers and have a good start in 2016
31. December 2015 at 09:53:41
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1. January 2016 at 13:36:03
Wish you all a happy and prosperous New Year 2016
Today I spent some time to start detailing the first aircraft. I choose the Skyraider and the Seasprite. The helicopter is nearly finished, just one seam line has to be filled, and two of the ten Skyraiders are assembled. I tried a little bit how to do it best because some small details are missing. I cut of the wings to display them folded. To let it fit proper I add small brass strips to simulate the hinges and to snap fit the wings as easy as possible once painted. That all comes out very nice so far and I hope to make faster progress on the remaining eight because I know now how it will work.
By the way, the big pencil is back
1. January 2016 at 19:05:37
Nice! Have to get myself such a big pencil
Do the planes have panel lines? Looks like you'll need a tiny scriber there...
2. January 2016 at 06:50:26
Great progress and a cool folding mechanism, Christian! How many planes did your CVW include? I heard that someone is currently making ordnance for 1:350 Vietnam aircraft...
Some MK82 would fit perfectly to your planes.
2. January 2016 at 07:24:33
2. January 2016 at 09:14:52
Two A-4 finished with scratch build flaps and one F-8 finished. They all look quite nice, just curious how they will look when they got a first coat of paint?!
Hehe, Ingmar, I guess everybody has such a pencil
No, unfortunately the L'Arsenal planes does not have panel lines. No joke I thought about scribing some panel lines but I left it because it will take to much time. I thing I will paint some small lines with oils once painted.
@Torben, according to my research CVW-5 have had 24 x A-4, 26 x F-8, 12 x A-1, 4 x A-3, 5 x RF-8, 3 x E-1 and 2 x UH-2 all in all 74 aero planes and 2 helicopters. I think I will display 11 x F-8 and RF-8, 18 x A4, 10 x A-1, 2 x A-3, 2 x E-1 and 1 x UH-2, all in all 43 aero planes and 1 helicopter.
I heard too someone is working on that
May you not the A-1 and A-8 lack drop tanks
@Thomas, glad you're taking a seat to follow
2. January 2016 at 15:09:07
It´s getting more and more interesting! Your airwing will be an eyecatching mix. I´ve just ordered my Intrepid kit.
2. January 2016 at 15:32:13
Which one do you want to build - Intrepid or one of her sisters?
2. January 2016 at 16:14:49
Those planes look great! And clean work as always
2. January 2016 at 20:49:54
2. January 2016 at 21:35:29
I agree with Christian, Christian
they look really nice! the slats on the A4 Scooter are maybe a wee bit too big, but other than that
2. January 2016 at 22:22:54
The planes are amazing. What about the hydrailic pipes at landing gear?
2. January 2016 at 22:42:07
Thank you mates, your very kind comments are much appreciated
@Guido, guess you mean the main thickens of material or the main dimension of the slats?!
Material is 0,1mm Styrene, the thinnest Styrene I still have. I sand the slats down a little bit not to tower above the main wing. They really look prominent but according to photos they do so on the real thing. I thought about to cut out the wings to represent the slat intake, but I left it because not to damage the very tiny structure and racks on the wings underside. I think it is ok to represent the intakes with an illusionary painting in red along the intake outline.
@Christian, hehe, yep I thought of that, next to some other mad and crazy ideas – what is about open canopies and cockpit? Some ejection seats, some maintenance work, open hatches, etc. That all will work, you only need some patience, good magnifiers and time.
As to be seen here:
I don't want to hang around with my build for six years as he still did with his Nimitz, but this is all possible.
3. January 2016 at 09:58:19
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3. January 2016 at 11:35:02
I wasn't referring to the thickness, as that seems ok. Rather the amount they were extending forward. Now after having looked again at images of the real ones, I tend to rest my case. It's all good!
3. January 2016 at 19:24:14
I´m looking foward to your solution of open canopies if should do them.
3. January 2016 at 19:39:44
Thx Guido, good to know all is good. And thx you mentioned it. Better to note it soon than to late to modify
Well Sven, just a thought. I do not have a good idea so far. Thermo forming with transparent foil is the only solution I think, but I'm not well with this technique and thing it is much to small to bend the foil respectively the foil will be to thick even for this scale. But time will tell
4. January 2016 at 17:09:10
4. January 2016 at 17:14:13
............... errr..... that's 1/350th ?!?!?!??!!!!!
....... good grief .... those ant builders are good !!
4. January 2016 at 17:36:00
Yep Choppa, I press them again to make all the fiddly work
4. January 2016 at 18:20:10
4. January 2016 at 18:38:40
They are resin casted. I'm not really sure about the master pattern, but I know they were 3D computer designed, so I guess the master was a 3D print and then cleaned and finished, because you could not see any step so prominent for 3D printing.
They have as well a lot of trucks, tanks etc. in their scale 1/350 program. I used some of the truck in my HMS Montgomery diorama. They're really nice and detail for this tiny scale. I guess they still have them in scale 1/700 too?!
4. January 2016 at 18:48:06
4. January 2016 at 19:23:10
I suspect you're right, the masters will have been high resolution 3D prints and molds made from them.
High precision 3D printing is expensive but it can be done fine enough not to see the steps but, but of course higher resolution takes a lot longer hence the high price etc.
4. January 2016 at 19:31:54
Yep Choppa just a question to redeem the cost for the master pattern and maybe extra work with a good bunch of kits to sell in a exactable time.
5. January 2016 at 19:22:41
Some very nice work, i shall take some tips from this build if you don't mind
8. January 2016 at 08:01:44
You're welcome Yari, and thx for looking at it
I made some progress with the airwing, I will post some photos tomorrow. I've got the excellent Intrepid CVA/CVS-11 photo CD by Ray Bean, which includes a lot of photos from Hanna and Tico, this week. I found some more small things to modify to build USS Hancock out of the Intrepid kit. One of the stbd. sponson has to be shortened, some fuel lines along the hull need some correction and an interesting topic, the radar dome just abaft the island was missing on her 1967 deployment.
8. January 2016 at 19:11:25
As mentioned before some progress on the airwing. The street looks busy with eight moving Scooters preparing to launch. The fantail was crowded as well with some parked Sandy's, a Whale and Crusaders. Some more aircraft are in progress.
Further photos explain the necessary modification to make a Hanna out of the Intrepid kit. Some more research will follow soon.
All in all so far an much interesting project, but a lot of basic work to do with the airwing to get a lifelike and correct result to represent this CVA on Yankee Station.
9. January 2016 at 11:26:49
That looks indeed like a busy flight deck. Will also require lots of 1/350 personnel
Looks like a lot of work.
9. January 2016 at 20:14:46
Yep will need a lot of brown, red, green, purple and yellow shirts next to all the sailors necessary to run a carrier. Unfortunately there is no 3Dm carrier personal available, only the Eduard flat 2D PE figures. Hope North Star models is working on some. Still they have Japanese carrier personal, but no US carrier personal. Well time will tell.
No it is time to get back to my two Whales, yesterday I cut out the whole undercarriage for the landing gear. Will post some photos soon.
10. January 2016 at 11:09:42
10. January 2016 at 12:29:04
Thank you for the link and information Lukasz. Mhh, guess these are PE figures you have to fold, but curious how temperature will expand them to get a 3D appearance?
What I'm referring to are figures like these Japanese pilots:
North Star has a wide range of these 3D resin figures in different dynamic poses. I used them on my HMS Montgomery and still use them only on my current projects. They fit well for a lot of ships, but you'll need some additional poses for aircraft carrier personal.
10. January 2016 at 13:00:09
Well, the cover I uploaded says 265'C. I thought they may come in handy - you should be able to shape them they way you need as they are photetched.
But yes, the figures from Northstar are much more detailed indeed.
10. January 2016 at 13:04:23
what about dipping the PE figures in PVA to "thicken" up the figures and give them some shape ?
wiping off the excess of course
10. January 2016 at 14:39:44
Well Choppa it should work, but I do not like these PE figures and you can get more realistic 3D figures from North Star. Instead of dipping PE sailors into PVA - and create a lot of Fatty's - I think I will operate the North Star figures to get more different poses.
Two Whales are finished. Because the main landing gear wheel well wasn't detailed and open at the kit part I cut out the wheel well and made it new including the wheel well doors. I add the clear plastic canopy without any painting below because I will paint the glass as I have to do with the rest of the airwing because all other planes do not have clear parts.
I don't know why Trumpeter choose a different material in black plastic for some parts. Nearly impossible to sand and clean the parts. That just look nice in the clear box but not a good choice for modelmakers. Still have to wait until it is painted how it will look at the end.
10. January 2016 at 17:50:41
The Whales are Skywarriors, correct? Nice modifs you've done!!
Maybe the rear deck is a bit too busy with all those frames parked there, while they launch 8 Scooters. But then again, in those days it was maybe common pratice.
In any case, lovely progress.
10. January 2016 at 18:12:59
Yep Guido, the A-3 Skywarrior was called the Whale because of it's size even for the big carriers like Independence or Kitty Hawk.
Well I'm just playing with the flight deck arrangement and I'm not really sure how it will look at the end. I chat about that with one of my close shipmates who is very well with aircraft carriers and carrier aviation, as well as I still have a look to more than 600 photos from Ray Bean's USS Intrepid photo CD
10. January 2016 at 18:28:04
Sounds all good.
When I was a kid, I have build a US carrier, but can't remember which one - was late '70s. Could it be USS Enterprise? I did look at all these in the database here, but none of the box arts did ring a bell. It didn't survive
You're build brings that appetite back. Maybe a "Charles de Gaule" one day.
10. January 2016 at 18:34:01
Awesome, Christian. Will there be on the F34 flying Lead pencil still wings
10. January 2016 at 18:59:50
What was I thinking !!
offering advice to someone of your excellence, doh !
of course, you have it all in hand, I'm interested to see what 1/350 figure set looks like
10. January 2016 at 19:19:24
very cool work on those wheel wells.
Maybe you are lucky and there will be some 1/350 carrier crews available if you finale reach that stage of the build. More likely they will be released shortly after you finished the ship. But then I can use them on my LHD-1 Wasp
10. January 2016 at 21:08:38
Well Guido, the man can be helped:
Not scale 1/350 but close. I guess L'Arsenal has some aero planes etc. in their program
Thx Martien , hehe F34, no not wings just fins to put it under the wing of one of the jets
Hey Choppa don't be to sad
may I'll give it a try to soak and drown one of the flat PE sailors. But if so I will only use a black shoe, cause a brown shoe never ever will fit in a cockpit
Thx Ingmar, mhh reminds me of some other projects – I call it Murphy's Law
Cheers and have a nice week
11. January 2016 at 17:43:32
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Thank you Clifford. You're very kind comment is much appreciated
12. January 2016 at 19:28:05
Most of the jets and props recently got their feet's what makes the flight deck look much busy now. Some Crusader's and Tracer's are still in progress. Once finished they will replace some of the A-1 and A-4, which I than will hand over to the hangar deck.
Well, time to put my attention to the hull and flight deck before I can go back to the birds.
17. January 2016 at 13:08:53
Very impressive work Christian - the planes are awsome small- respect
21. October 2016 at 12:57:01
21. October 2016 at 17:33:27
Hello all - a newbie here. "Sven from Modellbau sent me." I've tried to read all the comments in this thread, as best I could using a translator. Christian, absolutely stunning work on the aircraft! I appreciate all the comments and photos of the modifications so far.
I'm working on a 1/350 conversion of the Gallery USS Intrepid kit to the USS Hancock, CVA-19, as she was on her seventh of nine deployments to the South China Sea 1972-01-07 to 1972-10-03 with CVW-21. [source: Where we were in Vietnam 1945-75, by Michael Kelley] (By the way Christian, her 1967 deployment was the Hanna's third to Vietnam after 10/64-5/65 and 11/65-8/66.)
Unfortunately for me, by '72 most of the aircraft had changed, so most of the aircraft that come with the kit are not all that usable. By '72 the A1s were gone, the Seasprites were replaced by SH3G Sea Kings, and the A4-Cs of VA 55 were upgraded to A4-Fs, while VA 93 was upgraded to A4-Es and Fs. The added avionics hump on the later A4s is really noticeable. Luckily VF 54's F-8C Crusaders were upgraded to F8-Js with little visible difference. A lot of what I needed I've found online, but I'm still pondering A4-F/G options.
Ray Bean has been very helpful, and between he and Sven they have managed to help me spend a lot of money with them. I suppose it was inevitable. I look forward to following along, and I'll try to add something of value if I get the chance.
4. July at 01:40:23
Great work so far. The pictures with the complete air wing already look great! "thumbs pressed"
4. July at 07:21:29
Thank you Dan for you kind words and your interest. Welcome aboard, it would be fine to see your progress on Hanna. I put her beside due to several other progressing projects, but I hope to finish her one day.
Mmhhh I don't know if there are A4's with hump available in 1/350?
Looking forward to see your WIP here.
4. July at 18:02:52
I'm glad to be here, Christian!
There are several different 3D printed 1/350 aircraft on Shapeways. ( www.shapeways.com
) I just ran this filter for 1/350, but a finer search would winnow that down.
I'm going to order a couple different models and see what I think. I suspect the most important thing is to get them in a material that's easy to work with and paint.
Another advantage is that they can be done as a single part, which would make the landing gear easier to work with. Of course there must be some trade-off for part thickness, but I want to find out.
Perhaps others know of different 3D printers with useful products? Does anyone know any more about this guy's project?
5. July at 00:52:06
Christian, how could I possibly missed this one...but I did. Looking forward to see your progress on this air carrier
5. July at 10:15:13
Oh wow, and I thought my 1/72 Skyhawk was tiny
Great job so far, looking forward for more!
5. July at 15:54:14
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Thank you for all your kind comments. Well mates, due to a lot of other projects I put this time consumpting one beside. I'll come back to it one day and if you have the patience to want you're welcome to take a seat
5. July at 17:05:29