Typ VII C / 41
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1 27 June 2015, 11:06
Ivo FancziU997 is the boat on the boxcover i want the same painting and markings on my own kit ☺☺
28 June 2015, 11:22
Ivo FancziIf someone needs a info about U997 ubootarchiv.de/ubootwiki/index.php/U_997
28 June 2015, 11:47
Ivo FancziAnd an article from the forum (Modellversium) about the kit and how a guy build this kit (it is in german ) modellversium.de/gal..vii-c-41-revell.html
28 June 2015, 11:57
Ivo Fancziuboat.net/types/viic-41.htm I found an info about the sub in english thank god for the internet
28 June 2015, 12:13
Choppa Nutta.
Cool project, shaping up nicely and the one finished by Martin is excellent, as Mr Burns might say 🙂
Must I do fancy a U Boat but I've recently realised that there was more
than one type and they differ a fair bit from mini U Boats to the Atlantic
version which has left me uncertain as to which U Boat was the classic &
most famous U Boat of them all, was it the VII/C-41 ?
29 June 2015, 14:04
Holger KranichHi Choppy, yep i think the VII was the most famous...
"I´m not in the condition to phuck..." My favorite sentence from "Das Boot"!😄
29 June 2015, 14:51
Hanno Kleinecke@Choppa : Type VII C and C41 , 659 of them built . Although the most successful ones like U 48 , U 47, U 99,
And U 100 were the of the earlier VII B type.
29 June 2015, 15:10
Choppa Nuttaaha thanks chaps, so this is the kit for me then 😄
Some of them look very different to each other, like the mini ones.
So which one was the Atlantic version and how many of them looked liked the VII/C ?
and which had the anti aircraft gun on the front ?
or am I imagining that detail ? 😄
29 June 2015, 16:21
Ivo FancziI would say the type VII was the Most produced type but there are many different types that are interesting for example seehund/biber/neger/VII B/IXC/XXII/XXIII/ and so on.... Call me the submarine Nerd☺☺ if i we're asked in german about subs i could explain it much better ...shame on me because of my bad english ☺☺
29 June 2015, 16:35
Hanno KleineckeChoppa, like I said 659type VII boats were built, looking more or less the same except for various variants of AA arrangements aft of the conning tower. The bow gun was not for AA purposes . It was part of the offensive armament against vessels, and deleted later in during the war. Some of the later VIIs were equipped with a snorkel at the bow. Type VII and IX were designed for atlantic operations but the IXs were a lot bigger and had a far greater range, allowing them to operate off the coast of the USA and even in the southern Atlantic and the Indian ocean. Some of them were based in Indonesia and Japan. The VII and IX boats took part in Operation
Paukenschlag ( Drumbeat ) in 1941 in US waters, the VII were supplied by special submarine tankers Type XIV ( " Milk Cows " ) later during the war to reach distant waters.
29 June 2015, 18:45
Ivo FancziEverything he said is right......another Nerd☺☺☺
By the way the VII C 41 that i build is with a snorkel .
29 June 2015, 18:51
Hanno KleineckeOh right, I didn't look into your album 😳.. I 'm in for this one. Is there any aftermarket PE available for this version, or is there any included in the kit ? Yes, you really could call me a nerd for German subs I suppose..... I think they really look great, and the stories behind them are tragic but very interesting . Not very many books about this subject I didn't read..... 🙂
29 June 2015, 19:22
Ivo FancziKeine ätzteile im bausatz. Zurüstsätze ich denke ja die gibt es wenn nicht für die c/41version dann bestimmt für das
" normale"VIIC von Revell ,ich glaube von CMK gibt es verschiedene Sachen (Kombüse/Torpedosektion/Maschienenraum usw.)
☺☺soweit so gut☺☺s... h... und fette beute!
29 June 2015, 20:04
Ivo FancziI cant do more today its to hot i have 31°C in my buildingroom .
Im sweating and cant concentrate me on my work.
4 July 2015, 11:54
Hanno KleineckeTarnung sieht klasse aus Ivo ! Hast Du ein bestimmtes Boot im Auge, das Du darstellen willst ? Schönes Profilbild übrigens !
16 July 2015, 19:41
Ivo FancziJa hab ich , U 997 würde ich gerne machen, aber es herrscht das klassische Problem der Farbgebung und der Mangel an Fotos im Netz . Dankeschön wegen dem Profilbild.
17 July 2015, 03:01
Ivo FancziHanno das Problem mit der Farbgebung ist die hellen Stellen auf dem Boot mit den Mäandern wird im plan angegeben mit einer Mischung aus Weiß (98%) und Mittelgrau (2%) ICH denke aber das während des Krieges es nicht möglich war an so komplizierte Farbmischungen ranzukommen und bestimmt Weiß verwendet wurde z.B. die Tirpitz hat schon ein kompliziertes Tarnschema aber auch nur RAL-Farbtöne ,deswegen habe ich Weiß verwendet. Laut einem Buch über U 997 ist die die Farbgebung der Boote die in der Nordmeerflotte im Einsatz standen recht gleich und beziehen sich alle auf RAL-Farbtöne (wilde Tarnschemata wie bei der Tirpitz und U 997 gab es nur von 1942 bis Mitte 43) so genug von Farbe und Tarnschemen das macht mich ganz dumm😉
17 July 2015, 03:34
Hanno KleineckeIch denke Du liegst da schon richtig mit Deinen Überlegungen. Damals wurde bestimmt nicht viel Federlesens gemacht, und genommen was verfügbar war. Nach zwei Wochen in See war sowieso alles Roststreifig und abgewaschen.......
17 July 2015, 06:46
Ivo FancziDoes someone know the colours from the turretlamps (tower) one side is red and the other side ??? green ??? And are the Lamps on the back red too? The one on the tower and the lamp on the rear
18 July 2015, 17:03
Ivo FancziHanno,ich hab nochmal im plan nachgeschaut.....und backbord rot richtig Achtung jetzt kommt's steuerbord blau lol 🙂
Danke nochmals ich hab erst gedacht ich liege mit rot und grün total falsch zum glück hab ich es nicht so gemacht wie im plan🙂
18 July 2015, 18:32
Hanno KleineckeLol, da war Herr Revell wohl blau....... ((((( 😄 ))))). Ist grundsätzlich bei allen Schiffen und Flugzeugen dasselbe. Bei allen motorgetriebenen Überwasserschiffen kommt am Mast auch noch eine weiße Dampferlaterne dazu, ab 50 Metern Länge auch noch eine zweite .
18 July 2015, 18:39
Ivo FancziOkay gut zu wissen mit der Laterne auch mit der zweiten ab 50m des mit Rot und Grün wusste ich doch blau hat mich total aus dem Konzept gebracht 🙂
18 July 2015, 18:44
Ulf Petersen" Junge Junge! Du willst es aber genau wissen!"😉
Schönes Boot, Herr Kaleun!👍
21 July 2015, 04:53
Holger Kranich180 liegen an, Herr Kaleu!
Das muss das Boot abkönnen... Great work, Ivo!🙂
24 July 2015, 06:45
Kerry COXIvo, it looks like it's just come back from patrolling the west coast of America, 🙂
AND THE TORPEDO !!!!! OMG
So good mate ! 🙂
24 July 2015, 11:27
Ivo Fanczi😢 Danke Holger da lag ich nicht ganz falsch mit meiner Auswahl an Farben 🙂
24 July 2015, 12:54
Hanno KleineckeOhoo, Spitzenidee, der Torpedoschuß !!! Daß war's also ! Da hat Dein To - Maat aber wohl vergessen den Ausstoßkolben einzusetzen ? Sieht Klasse aus ! 🙂
24 July 2015, 13:10
Ivo FancziDanke Hanno, tja der To Maat... aber so kleinlich bin ich jetzt doch nicht😉
24 July 2015, 13:20
Ivo FancziLol und so lange das Personal die Mundungsklappen öffnet ist alles in Ordnung. 🙂
24 July 2015, 13:48
Ulf PetersenGreat work, Ivo!👍
Some pictures of better quality would be much appreciated. The given ones don't live up to the level of your model at all.
28 July 2015, 05:22
Ivo FancziSorry Ulf,Kerry i have no money for a new camera, i use my Mobile phone to make pics. I'm more busy to buy new kits😉
28 July 2015, 07:20
Choppa NuttaUlf does have a point, if you lean against something to hold the camera steadier that would be a big help 🙂
Another suggestion might be to set the resolution to maximum on your phone and move away from the model a bit more that way both ends of the sub will more likely be in focus at the same time 🙂
Another suggestion might be to invite a friend over with a decent camera who knows how to use it 😄
28 July 2015, 10:01
Ivo FancziAre all pictures in bad quality? Write me the number than i will make some new.
28 July 2015, 10:18
Choppa NuttaThe focus is out quite badly on most of them to be honest, sorry but it is true 🙂
A good idea is to take loads and loads of photos, several from the same spot,
- bang ! bang ! bang ! bang ! bang ! bang ! - next position ... repeat -
go through them all on a decent sized screen, phone screen cannot be trusted for checking quality, discarding the shite and selecting the best, retaking some angles if needed etc.
Another factor is poor-low light and with automatic cameras like phone cameras (usually) the shutter opens for longer which means any movement holding the camera will be exaggerated,
Solution - get good a light, 200 watts minimum 🙂
28 July 2015, 10:46
Ivo FancziI understand what youre meaning, but I am an Modeller not an photograph😉 maybe i'm on the wrong website😉
28 July 2015, 13:47
Choppa Nuttahaha well we can definitely see you can model very well indeed, well almost see😉 hehe 😄
Never hurts to present well though and observing a few basics can yield big benefits 🙂
Anyhow, great subject and finish, love the torpedo action, very novel but effective feature 🙂
28 July 2015, 15:23
Ivo Fanczi😢 sorry for the bad quality of the pictures😉 I promise i try to get better pictures from the next project 😉 by the way thank you Choppa
28 July 2015, 16:46
Ivo FancziI need youre opinion😉 when you say the pictures all have bad quality i need to do something quick. 🙂
29 July 2015, 08:33
Clifford KeeslerI don't think they are all bad. You have the same problem I do, I take bad pictures to. Part of it is me part is my camera. I have to make sure I am very still when I take the pictures,or they are out of focous. I did notice some of yours are the same way. Try to make sure you hold still while you are taking them. Choppa is always giving me a hard time about my pictures. LOL. He means well.
30 July 2015, 23:17
Choppa NuttaSorry chaps, I didn't mean to be too forthright 🙂
Low light is the main difficulty I reckon as means long exposure times and any movement is exaggerated.
Setting the resolution to maximum, moving the camera further away and trimming the image afterwards is an easier way of doing close ups too.
Well anyhow Ivo, like Clifford says they're not all bad but a few simple things will help greatly, and yeah, I definitely mean well guys, take it is a compliment chaps, I think you both do good work that deserves decent photography😉
30 July 2015, 23:28
Ivo FancziOk mates, i will practice and i try to get better pictures in the next project. 🙂
31 July 2015, 02:21
