Zerstoerer Typ 36A Z30

Stefan Schacht
Hi Chris, i following this closely 🙂

Christian Bruer
you're welcome Stefan! May I pick this up to show the progress in the next Wednesday meeting.

Jens
bei der Grösse tun mir schon die Augen weh , und du baust das noch in einer Perfektion , einfach nur Hammer 👍

Christian Bruer
danke für die Blumen Jens!

Christian Bruer
It is better to finish first the water base for a new model, especially you plan to show the model in a more or less rough sea as I plan with Z 30. The Styrofoam board was shaped using a sharp modeling knife and a rotating contact brush. Next I masked the under lower hull of the model and set it to the base. Now it was time to cover the surface with self made papier-mâché in a more or less thick layer. The papier-mâché will be better to form if you add a good portion paste to it. Once formed I wait until the papier-mâché start to dry and carefully cut out the model. Now I set the base away for a while to let the papier-mâché dry. Some more progress as soon as it dries😉 Cheers, Christian

Christian Bruer
Next to work on the smaller parts for HMS Montgomery I experimented with the base for Z30 and HMS Westminster. Using papier-mache to sculp waves for such long bases isn?t a good choice because of warping due to the drying of the papier-mache. I tried some things like to add expansion joints etc. but this seems to be only a reparation. Better is to make it right from the beginning. A chat with my close friend Frank let me quit using papier-mache and a restart the base, this time I sculpted the sea only by using a rotating contact brush with a drilling machine with variable speed. The effect was much better than before and now I sand the surface carefully, just to break lightly the upper surface. Then I add a first coat of wall paint, little later a second now in a stippling motion. Now I let it dry before I will add some more layers of wall paint to get a more or less effect of the small waves.

Mathias Carl
Sieht gut aus 👍
Den habe ich auch noch im Stapel liegen.
Wie lässt er sich denn so im großen und ganzen bauen?

Christian Bruer
Danke! Es passt alles ganz gut zusammen. An den Aufbauten muss trotz Gerung an den Ecken etwas gespachtelt werden. Eine Lücke tut sich unterhalb der Brücke zum Vorbau auf. Aber alles kein Problem so weit. Ist im Grunde wie Z25, hat sogar den gleichen Rumpf😉 Daher muss hier noch die Scheuerleiste weg!

Mathias Carl
Wenn Du das Ding vorne am Rumpf meinst:
Das ist eine Spritzwasserleiste.
Damit sollte das Vorschiff von Spritzwasser freier gehalten werden.
Aber ob das wirklich sooo funktioniert hat ??? 🤔

Christian Bruer
ah ja, mein Fehler. Klar das Teil meine ich!

Aghis Barberopoulos
I am very interested in this project, as I have a similar one to do in the future.

Christian Bruer
Hi Aghis, this will be a slow project one because I first try a new method of making water bases, but you're welcome to follow😉

Torben H.
Have a "Seestueck" like this on my mind since years. Will follow your progress very closely to lose some of the reserve I have against such projects. Very nice progress so far! How is the dust caused by the styrofoam manageble during machining? Turns hobbyrooms into "Schlachtfelder"? 🙂

Christian Bruer
Hi Torben, thank you for your interest and kind comment. Luckily I have a small work shop in a stable next to my house and I do all the things making dust and dirt in the stable. Before I start machining Styrofoam I put all my stuff on the bench beside. You should wear an Overall and for safety protective glasses and a mask. If you pre cut the board to reduce the dust, but a bit more or less doesn?t matter because you will have to clean the bench and the floor. Another place could be the garden, but it isn?t fun hanging around there in the cold. Cheers, Christian

Torben H.
Thank you for explaining, Christian. Seems like fun in my 2-room appartement. 🙂

Acki
Just had a look at the upgrade set. This will be an interesting project.

Christian Bruer
@Torben, seems to be a bad idea. You will have to clean up erverything in your appartement😉
@Acki, yep, the uprgrade set is really nice, but it is not a must have to get a nice model out of the kit.
Cheers, Christian

Mohammad Adl
Exact work 🙂

Holger Kranich
Oh a Narvik class destroyer!!! I´m in here!

Christian Bruer
You're welcome😉

Gabor Szabo
Very impressive water base! Please tell more about that!

Dave Flitton
Watching!!!!!

Udo Browarczik
Very impressive. I´d like to see more of this...

Christian Bruer
Thanx mates for following and kind comments!
@Gabor, actually I try different ways to represent a seascape of my ideas. You can use Styrofoam (thermal insulation material 30 - 40mm thick) to make a moved seascape. The waves are shaped by a cutter knife and sanded with a rotating contact brush using a thrilling machine. You should know how it should look when finished, life like photos of ships in a sea state you?d like to present are very helpful. If the seascape is in a good shape I cut out the lines for the lower hull and fit the boat to the board. Don?t worry of gaps, they shouldn?t be to large but you can fill them later when seascape and boat are finished so far. Next I add wall paint in a stippling motion on top of the surface to represent the small waves and choppy sea. Add wall paint in some layers, but wait until each layer is still dry to avoid any cracks on the surface. When all this looks good you can start painting the base. I use acrylics in different shades of grey, green and blue. Now you can add waves etc. using tissue paper and cotton wool. When this is finished some thick layers of high gloss varnish will give the final touch. Take a look to my Album Ship Model Displays:
Ship model displays | Album by Christian Bruer
If you have any further questions or propositions please ask or give a feedback ? Thanx and happy modeling, Christian

Gabor Szabo
Thank You! Thank You! 🙂 Thats really helps! I like to try make an open sea diorama but as an aeroplane modeler is a "terra incognita" foe me. 🙂

Christian Bruer
You're welcome Gabor! Don't worry everything new or uncommon is a terra incognita😢 Cheers, Christian

Clifford Keesler
You are the ship Guru Sir,looking great.

Christian Bruer
Mmhh I don't think so, but thank you Clifford for this very kind comment. Cheers Christian