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Erik De Smet (opadesmet)
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Alphajet comparative build.

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32 2 December 2021, 09:08
Erik De Smet
I have these two kits, and will build them together.
2 December 2021, 09:33
Cuajete
Following...
Do you plan to include the Fujimi kit as well? Many years ago I made one from Starfix and
I think I remember it was a rather horrible kit.
2 December 2021, 20:23
Erik De Smet
No, I just have these two kits. The Fujimi kit is nearly impossible to find. The Revell version of the Heller kit , almost thé same. I used the Matchbox kit for my Alpha-Jegg. And I have 3 old builds of the Airfix and Heller somewhere in my basement.
2 December 2021, 20:52
Cuajete
👍
2 December 2021, 21:09
Łukasz Gliński
First review of KP's Alpha, thanks 🙂
3 December 2021, 15:15
Bernd Korte
Interesting double feature! I'm following.
4 December 2021, 14:44
Erik De Smet
Nose gear is disappointing for both kits. Option 1 : use it anyway ; Option 2 : go for the spare box ( can't find anything suitable) ; Option 3 : resin replacement , can you hear me Pavla and Quickboost ?
Option 4: 3D print design (I do not have the skills). Final Option : make a replacement with plastic card and rod : I will try, otherwise it will be option 1.
5 December 2021, 14:16
Thomas Kolb
What a cool comparison build. It looks that neither Heller nor KP have really bothered to do their best. Although I am sure you will bring out the very possible best of both kits.
5 December 2021, 14:28
Erik De Smet
Looking at the internet pictures of the main gear , it seams that it also needs more " muscles"
@Thomas, Heller has the excuse that it based the kit on prototype data. KP made some improvements, but missed other points.
5 December 2021, 16:24
Robert Podkoński
This "KP hell" title seems adequate 😄 Following with interest, Erik!
5 December 2021, 17:22
Curatorm
Thanks for this work 🙂
5 December 2021, 17:26
Erik De Smet
Robert, actually I think the KP is a decent kit considering the limited resources they have, and it is better than the old Hell-er, aka Revell, but they missed the opportunity to improve details like the landing gear.
And I must admit I cannot find dimensional drawings for the gear. I could go to a museum at Beauvechain to measure it, but it is a bit to cold now for that.
5 December 2021, 17:43
Maxim Malparte
Is the lower fuselage slightly wasp-waisted on KP's? one point for KP in that case imho. [img1]?v=v431af9d22e4
 
6 December 2021, 09:03
Łukasz Gliński
The further you venture, the more interesting it becomes. Got a Revell one, still hesitating to build it 😄
6 December 2021, 09:08
Erik De Smet
Pour les amis français qui regardent ici et qui font leurs commentaires ailleurs : j'ai bien vérifié l'exactitude des plans avec les dimensions publiées . Le kit Heller a la bonne longueur, la queue du KP est 4 mm plus courte. Le KP n'est pas une copie du Heller, certains défauts sont corrigés, d'autres sont repris. Le KP demande plus de préparation , mais le montage est plus facile.
6 December 2021, 20:55
Mark K
Watching
6 December 2021, 22:19
Erik De Smet
I had my booster, but this project needs a booster too. There is a lack of detail in the cockpit area, which needs scratch building. Could be expected for a 40 + year old Heller kit, but a missed opportunity for KP to do better
17 December 2021, 10:35
Cuajete
Good progress 👍
29 December 2021, 20:00
Laurent VILLANUEVA "HELLER-forever"
merci pour la comparaison , hélas le KP n'amène pas grand chose de bien....sauf les décos ...
27 January 2022, 20:05
Łukasz Gliński
Ahhh, love that colour 😄 (pic #28 of course)
27 January 2022, 20:39
Erik De Smet
Unfortunately, Lukasz, it will be covered by yellow...
28 January 2022, 09:26
Łukasz Gliński
[img1]
 
28 January 2022, 09:30
Erik De Smet
some progress with painting and masks
19 February 2022, 15:08
Thomas Kolb
This looks absolutely lovely, I guess pink primer is the best option for yellow then?
19 February 2022, 15:28
Erik De Smet
paint disaster
20 March 2022, 10:44
Lost_Erik
Tough luck on the paint but I know you can recover.
20 March 2022, 14:16
Cuajete
I agree with Lost-Erik... You can do it, Erik!
20 March 2022, 18:59
Daniel Klink
Urgh, that is looking really bad Erik...
Dammit hope you can fix it!
20 March 2022, 19:01
Łukasz Gliński
Too bad, fingers crossed for fixing (or building another one 😉)
20 March 2022, 19:09
Erik De Smet
The picture actually shows how fast the acrylic paint is attacked by Lifecolor cleaner. The paint cracks and I can wipe it off with a brush and paper tissue, even the primer goes away.
20 March 2022, 19:18
Matthew A
Does it affect the plastic?
7 April 2022, 15:11
Erik De Smet
Finally I got decent 3D printed replacement parts.
@ matthew: some plastic became brittle, but it is repairable
22 April 2022, 13:39
Greg Baker
Sign me up for this one!
22 April 2022, 13:53
David R. Meizoso
Me too! Good that you go on with it, pic33 is a mojo killer...
25 April 2022, 16:19
Erik De Smet
I consider the KP kit as finished. Difficult paint job, as the AK real color yellow did not allow touch up of undersprays. Happy though with the 3D undercarriage
11 May 2022, 13:05
Łukasz Gliński
Spectacular scheme, isn't it?
11 May 2022, 13:50
Laurent VILLANUEVA "HELLER-forever"
good job !
11 May 2022, 18:41
Erik De Smet
This completes the comparative build of Heller and KP: both kits have there shortcomings, the main issue is the U/C which does not compare with the reality. My attempt to get it printed in 3D give a result I am glad with.
2 June 2022, 15:56
Erik De Smet
Project completed with refurbished Fujimi/Revell
4 June 2022, 12:46

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Comparative build of the old Heller/Revell kit and the new KP kit. Both have some issues, the main problem is the U/C for which I finally designed 3D printed replacements.
I also found in my collection an old model, which appeared to be the Fujimi/Revell kit, which I will give an upgrade after stripping off the paint.

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