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John Hughes (Gojira)
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Revell 1/125 U-47 with interior

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Here's all the sprues. Lots of tidying up to do on these parts: flash, mould lines & ejector pin marks galore. No real surprise there as the kit is almost 50 years old! 
 

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The bulkheads are covered with ejector pin marks, some sunken, some raised, just to keep things interesting. They needed multiple treatments with liquid putty. 
 

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Each of the bulkhead doors has two deep holes in it which need filling, plus planty of flash & mould lines to deal with. There's going to be a LOT of cleanup on this one! Note the bad moulding on the second doors handle. 
 

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See what I mean? These are the hinges for the bulkhead doors, somewhere in among all the excess plastic! 
 

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There's some lovely "extra" detail on some of the parts! 
 

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This is the first day of build. Not even two parts assembled yet. Just hours of puttying and filling and sanding. It's not over yet, either. I spent most of the afternoon correcting the mould mismatch on the torpedoes. 
 

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The engine halves are together, but the filling etc is more a case of rebuilding along the joints than a minor correction. There was also an ejector pin mark on the inside of one half that was deeper than the width of the part. Nearly broke the cutters on that one! The gaps on top need a bit of correction too. Luckily, they're just about the thickness of my file. The finished result will be about 75% plastic/25% putty at this rate. 
 

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On part 7, the wall mounted torpedo rack, there appears to be some flash where there should be two pegs for mounting the torpedoes. Don't remove the flash! What seems to have happened is that there's been a short shot in the casting of these pegs. If you remove the flash, you'll lose what there is of the mounting pegs. 
 

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The cylinder heads were still higher on one side than the other, so a second application of putty was required. Otherwise, I'm still getting rid of ejector pin marks. Why there needs to be eight on one bulkhead alone is beyond me! 
 

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The second coat of putty has dried overnight, but after a quick sanding, you can see that there are still problems around the joints on the cylinder heads, almost as if chunks have been carved out of them. Oh well, here goes application no. 3! 
 

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Mould damage: check
Ejector pin marks: check
Sink marks: check
Mould misalignment: check
Flash: Ah Ah! Er, I mean check.
Thank goodness this is just the stand. 
 

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There's a lot of work to do on this one before you reach for the cement bottle. It's been a busy week! 
 

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I've tried to simulate wear on the deck by using a fine sanding stick. It doesn't really show up well in photos. 
 

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Even the torpedoes need quite a bit of work. They're just about done now. 
 

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Bulkheads and instruments panels. If you're wondering where the instruments are... 
 

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...they're here! This could take a while. Note that the red dots down the RHS are decal no. 10, not no.1 as it says on the sheet. Edit: So far, I've placed 8 of the red dots and I've had enough for one night! The decals take an age to release from the backing and then flatly refuse to adhere to the model even with the use of Microscale products. Absolutely the worst decals I've ever seen, except for some MPC ones which disintegrated as soon as they were placed in water. 
 

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Let's see if gloss varnish will do the trick. 
 

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So far, so good. I've been using just Micro Sol this time around. Next, I'll seal them with a dab of gloss varnish. 
 

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So, decal #9 fits on that cylinder to the left, does it? Well played, Revell, well played. 
 

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After several nostalgic hours spent digging in my old scrap parts box, I've found something that fits the bill. I'll open up the hole to make a collar that fits over the existing cylinder. That will ensure the right location. I'm going to have to use two of these collars to get the height of the cylinder, so I'll stick them together & sort the joint and height before adding to the side wall. I think I'll paint it black before fitting. It keeps things simple and relieves the monotony of the grey. 
 

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It only took one of the collars to get the thickness required. By luck, one was just shy of the right thickness. A dab of liquid putty around the edge should do the trick. You really can see how far out the original diameter was in comparison to the others. The top left dial decal fell off during the process. The gloss varnish has been deployed again. 
 

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That should do it. A quick few passes of the sanding stick and a coat of black paint later. I'll give it a layer of gloss varnish before putting the decal on. Then i can get back to the job at hand. 
 

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That's better, it fits now. I'm getting into a routine with the decals. Apply a few, Micro Sol them, wait a bit, then seal them with gloss varnish. Wait then repeat. So far, it seems to be working. 
 

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Progress so far. Still a long way to go, though. 
 

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The largest part is now done. It's taken almost a week. I can still smell Micro Sol. That stops after a while, doesn't it? 
 

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Decals done and part mounted in hull. Glad to see the back of that job! 
 

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The side wall of the rear torpedo room is ready too. The two white dials at top right have the plastic too small a diameter for the decals, so I had to build that up too. 
 

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Test fit of the hull and main interior. 
 

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The rear torpedo room assembled. Note that two instrument decals have gone missing. You can find one to the right on the adjacent dial. 
 

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Dry fit of rear torpedo room with main & forward torpedo rooms in place. 
 

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The engine room is fixed at one end, using the rear torpedo room for positioning. Also note the ejector pin marks on the decking. No reason they couldn't be on the other side of the part. 
 

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Front torpedo room 
 

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Control room. The two control stations had to be reduced in height in order to fit below the wall mounted controls. 
 

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Engine room. Fitting the engines is fun. The mounting points are vague to say the least. 
 

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Rear torpedo room. The instructions call out colour P for the semi-cylindrical protrusions on the back wall. The colour chart goes up to colour N. 
 

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Test fitting the hull halves. The last bulkhead and the bunks have been added. 
 

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Parts 42 & 43 which together make a cylinder. Allegedly. 
 

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Funny, but I always thought cylinders were circular. These are 6 x 7mm. Brass tube on order. 
 

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Thought I'd try a bit of test fitting up top. The tower locates by two semi-circular pegs and one semi-circular hole. Yeah, you read that right. Not even a hint of the second hole. 
 

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With the deck loosely in place, I offered up the hoist in the rear torpedo room. It won't fit in the locating holes on the underside of the deck without shortening one end a mm or two. It clashes with the bulkhead. (There is a decent locating point for the deck, so it's not that that is out of position). 
 

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Finally! Brass tubes in place on the underside of the deck. I invested in a plumber's pipe cutting tool as it easily cuts 3-22mm pipes with a good square cut. It does leave a slight taper, so include for this in your measurement. This taper is easily removed with a file. 
 

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WIP of painting the crew figures. One of them went AWOL from the tweezers last night, resulting in a huge manhunt. I eventually found him hiding behind the epoxy putty box. 
 

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Two more painting sessions later and they're looking a bit better. 
 

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Hair, hats, boots & belts are added. 
 

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There are a few mistakes to correct (as ever!). The one on the bottom left is the one who went missing. I'll be watching you, Fritz! 
 

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I can't see a U-boat captain without thinking of one particular TV programme from the past. Who knows the correct response to the question "What's your name?" 
 

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The basic painting of the crew is done. I'm debating whether to try any kind of washing or shading on figures this small, especially since they're going to be inside the hull. 
 

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The deck is now fitted out with the brass tubes and forward & aft torpedo hoists. The locating pegs were in the wrong place, so I have not had to modify the rear torpedo hoist, just remove the locating pegs. I think I will fit the deck by attaching just the tubes first, to get the location correct, then affix the deck to the hull one compartment at a time. 
 

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Those brass tubes were definitely worth the wait, I think. 
 

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The crew are now stuck in place with thin CA. 
 

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They're smaller than I thought and look a bit lost in there! 
 

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The crouching ones surely would have been seated, but there are no seats in the kit. Next to the map tables, they look like children. I think there may be a relative scale issue here... 
 

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One off for a kip, one tending to the engines. 
 

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The tail end charlies. 
 

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Probably more flash on one part than in the whole of some kits and the biggest ejector pin marks I've ever seen! At least I can now continue. There was no point even trying when it was 33 degrees in my workroom! 
 

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The hull halves are assembled now. This process took several days. I began by clamping the keel halves together and getting cement into the join. Then I let that dry overnight. Then I did the same fore & aft of the keel and basically glued the two halves together bit by bit. Once I'd reached the ends and the whole of the inderside was glued, I proceeded along the top join in even smaller increments. This was due to the fact that I found it impossible to clamp the bits correctly and so I had to hold the parts together by hand until the glue had set. You can only do so much of that in a day! The tower is dry fitted. I'm working on components for that at the moment. 
 

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The fit at the aft end is abysmal. The rear torpedo tube had a large ejector pin on the concave surface just in front of the door. I had to carefully carve that off and resurface the part with Mr Surfacer & Mr Colour Levelling Thinners. Something about this picture makes me think of using Sage & Onion stuffing as a filler... 
 

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There's going to be a lot of filling & sanding to do. 
 

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At least the prow is a bit better. But not much. 
 

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The joint between the sides & the deck are hit & miss. It isn't as easy as you may think to get this right as the deck is not entirely flat. 
 

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After a week of gradually building up a good layer of Mr Surfacer 500 along the seam, I've finally bitten the bullet and started sanding it back. I'll do the rear torpedo hatch area & stern last. 
 

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It's not done yet as there are one or two (dozen) spots that need a dab to fill a hollow. 
 

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Realistically, it doesn't need to be perfect as the stand hides most of the keel, which sits only a few mm above the shelf anyway. 
 

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Once you get off the keel and onto the forward section of the hull, getting the profile right is more difficult. Whether I've come close or not is yet to be seen! 
 

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The prow is a little easier to get right. I did manage to crack open the joint along the top deck and open side. No doubt when I get a coat pf primer on it I'll be back doing this all over again. It's not helping that the old tendonitis is back again. 
 

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Having cracked open the joint between side & deck whist sanding, (sigh), I've had to repair & leave it to set with a clamp on. In the meantime, here's the progress so far on the tower... 
 

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...and the partly built periscopes... 
 

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...and the deck gun. 
 

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The rebuilt keel. Still got to do the topside. 
 

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I've had to pretty much reconstruct the rear torpedo tube & stern. Still not there yet. The original construction would have had an emerging torpedo deflecting downwards from the boats own stern! 
 

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Test fit of the tower. I'm still working on the hull/deck joint filling & sanding. 
 

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There will clearly be a gap at the base of the tower which I'll try to minimise as much as possible before fixing it in place. 
 

Comments

31 11 April 2022, 19:20
John Hughes
Workbench cleaned off and ready for the next project!
11 April 2022, 19:24
Spanjaard
curious about this one. i have it in my stash (in theory, in practice it is about 1700km away) and i want to see what can be done with it.
11 April 2022, 19:46
Treehugger
Protip, the best way to make the holes for the sides, is to NOT drill holes, but to just scrape away the plastic on the back side, until the holes show. Ofc, one would have to be careful. This way, the holes will magically open up, by simply removing the plastic on the back side.
11 April 2022, 19:53
John Hughes
Treehugger, I assume you're refering to the holes along the sides of the hull? Good idea, but I hadn't even looked that far ahead yet.
11 April 2022, 20:15
Robert Podkoński
Watching, of course 😉
11 April 2022, 20:32
Kyle DeHart
Ah. Old kits are always fun. I will be here to watch
11 April 2022, 21:15
John Hughes
Welcome aboard, mateys! Last man close the hatch behind him. If it fits, that is...
14 April 2022, 12:40
John Hughes
Having started applying the decals to the interior. I'm faced with a problem: After 24 hours, the decals have totally failed to adhere to the surface. This is despite using Microsol & MicroSet on them. So far, I've only tried the red dots, so paint is always an option for them, but I can only wonder how the rest will behave. Without the decals, this kit is a bust.
19 April 2022, 18:08
Robert Podkoński
Sorry to hear that, John... Perhaps some diluted Kristal Klear would help, or try to find the dedicated decal glue from Tamiya range:
Decal Adhesive 10ml (Tamiya 87176, No)

87176
 
19 April 2022, 18:10
John Hughes
Good suggestions, thanks, Robert. I hadn't heard about the decal glue. I was considering a dab of gloss varnish or Future to seal them in place followed by an all over coating afterwards. At least I can experiment with the red dots as they are expendable. The problem is that a lot of the instruments stand proud of the wall and the decal is about the same diameter as the plastic cylinder, so there is limited scope for the varnish/Future method.
19 April 2022, 18:16
Spanjaard
Most id it is back decals, you could scan and print in decal paper, even with just a simple laser printer
19 April 2022, 21:10
John Hughes
Spanjaard, I've scanned the decals as a precaution.
Robert, I've managed to find some Tamiya Decal Glue, in Italy! None to be found in the UK. It will take a week to arrive, though.
20 April 2022, 19:08
Neil
Hi John, 🙂 accepting that my build is a lot less accomplished, however I frequently get the decal problem with my old kit builds.

I have previously managed this issue whilst still using the original ancient set with my in-progress Mirage 2000 build. Getting them to adhere with a solution mix of very weak PVA and water. May be worth a try if you're wanting to press ahead? Just a suggestion 👍

I too will be ordering some decal glue, thanks for the tip Robert 👍 build looks stunning BTW 👌
2 May 2022, 09:42
Robert Podkoński
You're welcome, Mates! Before Tamiya's adhesive I used diluted Kristal Klear and it worked well. Nice progress, John!
2 May 2022, 09:46
John Hughes
Thanks, mates. It's not looking too bad if you don't look too close! I'm currently cleaning the flash and mould seams from the crew figures. At the moment, I'm carving a raised ejector pin mark off a sailors bottom. There's a first time for everything! I think I shall be suitably cross-eyed and cramped by this evening.
2 May 2022, 10:11
Robin (WhiteGlint)
Oh nice! 👀
Interior looks good in my opinion. Keep it up. 👍
2 May 2022, 18:50
John Hughes
Thanks, WhiteGlint. I've got loads of filling & fettling of parts to do before continuing. Almost every crewman has a deep ejector pin mark at the base of the spine and, needless to say, most will be positioned facing the back wall.
2 May 2022, 19:12
Kyle DeHart
Not meaning to take your pain lightly but I couldn't help but giggle a bit at your last couple of captions describing the issues. Nonetheless, it is looking good so far!
11 May 2022, 20:58
John Hughes
Kyle, I knew what I was getting into before I started. I just didn't know how deep it was going to be!
12 May 2022, 11:53
Kyle DeHart
Well you're doing a great job with it.
12 May 2022, 18:44
John Hughes
Thanks, Kyle. I'm still waiting for the brass tube to arrive, but I'm painting the crew figures in the meantime. At 1/125 scale and, needless to say, poorly moulded, it's a bit of a "do the best you can" job. This U-boat is going to be crewed by half-melted Autons.
12 May 2022, 19:25
Kyle DeHart
😂😂 Well that's totally understandable
12 May 2022, 22:07
Łukasz Gliński
Interesting, thinking of getting one too sometimes
10 October 2022, 19:18
John Hughes
Well, Lukasz, be prepared for a LOT of remedial work if you want to get anything even half way decent looking at the end. The parts are very poorly moulded. In fact, the moulds are well past the useful end of their life and need scrapping. The decals are awful. By the time they come loose from the backing paper, they've already lost their adhesive! It's a great shame really, as it's a nice idea for a kit. Personally, I love the fact that the map tables are about shoulder high to the crew figures. Come to think of it, where is the helm? I've not seen any one driving this thing.
10 October 2022, 19:28
Spanjaard
I doubt I will ever finish mine (barely started it 20+ years ago)
10 October 2022, 22:48
Łukasz Gliński
Thx John, that's a real food for thought 👍
11 October 2022, 08:10

Project info

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1:125 Deutsches U-Boot German Submarine U-47 with interior (Revell 05060)
Type VII
3R Wehrmacht Kriegsmarine (German Navy 1935-1945)
KK Günther Prien U-47 (KK Günther Prien)
1939
 

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