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Dragon's Ohio Class SSGN (or SSBN) in 1:350 scale

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23 13 January 2021, 13:31
Reaper_lead
Overall, how is the kit so far? I'm thinking about either an ohio class or virginia class in 1:350, but I've never built a submarine.
13 May 2021, 16:17
Treehugger
I think with some work it will look nice, but the numerous panel lines all along the hull afaik shouldn't be there so I filled them in with vallejo putty and then sanded flush. It will imo be a little difficult gluing on the big top deck, which is supposed to have two long open slits on the sides, because there aren't many struts and as you can imagine the forward part will require putty and sanding and maybe more to look flush. I glued on styrene parts to keep the top deck piece steady. I expected Dragon kits to be great, but it seems rather mediocre imo.

I damaged the bollards when sanding so the large bollards have to be re-created. I will fill in the cavities around the bollards, sand flush and paint over with white or silver, as the bollards are retracted mostly into the hull, top surface looking somewhat flush all over.
13 May 2021, 17:07
Reaper_lead
Good to know! I will definitely be watching
14 May 2021, 02:27
John Ballman
I am a Retired and Qualified US Navy Submariner. My last Submarine was USS MARYLAND SSBN 738. I appreciate what you are doing to fix that kit by Dragon. I have built a few in the past and was hoping a new tool would have come out by now. Yes, all those panel lines got to go. Also, Dragon engraved 4 BST bouy stations on the superstructure. Ohio boats only have two, forward port, aft starboard. Just fill with putty and sand smooth. If you don't know what I am talking about, they are the rectangular shaped engraved panels on the superstructure. The retractable cleats are so small that they are best represented by a decal cut to size or thin tape to represent it. The faring up on the bow is the WLR-9 torpedo detection device. It looks like a fin to a Killer Whale. Those items you are calling "Bollards" are not what you think they are. They are the ballast tank vents that are poorly rendered. I filled those in with super glue and sanded smooth, drilled out the holes for the ballast tank vents and put brass tubing for the outer and put brass rod in the hole to give it a vent valve look. Retractable cleats is what we call the devices that we use to tie up at the pier to the "bollards" on the pier.
All in all nice job, but the Dragon kit is really a piece of fiction in my book.
Respectfully
JB
26 January 2022, 20:17
Treehugger
Ah, thanks.
Ah I think I see what you mean by the four sets of bouy stations on the side of the superstructure on top of the sub.
I have the, what you called ballast tank vents filled in for now with putty. Sometimes I wonder a model would look better if some of the panel lines were filled in. Good thing I am done with the wierd panel lines around the hull, as one expect the hull to be smooth.
26 January 2022, 21:24
John Ballman
Subs have weld lines and they are raised lines, you should see a boat that has gone through overhaul. Lots of hull cuts made to remove major equipment from the ship so they can be overhauled as well. At that scale you wouldn't see those lines very well.
26 January 2022, 22:23
John Ballman
Keep up the good works, looks like you still need to address the two extra BST bouys. I am in touch with a Guy that 3D prints Submarine propellers. I'll see if he makes them for the Ohio class. FYI, the D-5 Missile is 44'4" length, 83" diameter, if you want to check the length, I think it is close enough in that scale.
Respectfully,
JB
16 May, 22:54
Treehugger
No idea what a BST bouy is, might it be this thing?
msn.com/en-us/news/w..e-orders/ar-AA1jeLsL

Presumably any buoys would be hidden inside the hull and not dangling on the outside. I think I know what a towed arrays is, two at the back I think, but no idea where any other larger buoy might be stored.

Ah, maybe a buoy is hidden inside this structure I see on some photos at the front? It looks like a small tower somewhere in front of the sail, but it is a small thing though, perhaps too small for containing a buoy. If I had to guess, any buoy is hidden somewhere under a panel door found on the deck on top.

I'll just use the propeller I've prepared, but ofc I can see why one would replace it, never knowing how inaccurate the kit part might be.
17 May, 05:49
John Ballman
That's ok. Here is the explanation of the BST Bouy, they are not hidden, they have explosive bolts and they are basically a bouy that is released if the Sub is in distress or under attack. It had two settings, Sub Sank / Sub Attacked. They are the rectangular shaped engraved panels on the superstructure, Dragon engraved four, there should only be two, Forward Port, Starboard Aft.
Here is a link to show a simulated installation during testing.

alamy.com/a-simulate..-image503839760.html

The towed arrays and their handling gear are located inside the superstructure and would not be seen. We also had two OE-305, now called AN/BRR-6/6B communications bouys that was deployed from a retractable deck section aft of the missile tubes. I retired 25 years ago so all external changes that have done like the SSGN conversions I have no first hand knowledge.
Follow this links for the comms bouys

interestingengineeri..ealth-nuclear-strike

twz.com/this-buoy-he..uclear-strike-orders

Keep up the great work.
JB

17 May, 17:41
Treehugger
" (...) there should only be two, Forward Port, Starboard Aft."
Aha, I think I can see this now on the kit. I can fix this.

I think I just realized that the Dragon kit's propeller, have its blades rotating the wrong way, as if the sub was reversing. So I snipped off the plastic and will use the photo etch blades which are larger.

I think I had a similar issue with Hobby Boss 1:350 Guam heavy cruiser, kit failing to have counter rotating propellers for two of its four propellers. So I had to fix that.

Dragon kit has a recessed line on top from far front to back, and I think this is supposed to be a cable, and so I can probably glue on some metal wire, so the detail isn't a recessed detail. I guess this might be a degaussing cable or something. I remember on some other kit, I cut this detail off, thinking it was a molding line, heh.
18 May, 11:17

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