McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II

Augie Oooo watching

Patrick Hagelstein Oh yeah! Cool!

Dutch Augie & Patrick. Yeah I am still trying to figure this one out. I do not have enough B/N kits, so will use a Mongram C. Hopefully, the thick wing won't be too noticeable.

Hans Robben The thick wing is not the only difference between a B and C and it is very noticeable. You would be better of with a B/N kit. While I am typing this I notice on the right hand side under new releases that there will be a (re)release of the Hasegawa B/N soon, but that is 1/48 unfortunately.

Patrick Hagelstein I have to agree to Hans, the wings (and the wheels for that matter) will give the plane a different (more bulky) stance.

Murad ÖZER oooh man, Patrick i sincerely hope this won't remain as an idea, Deutsche Phantom and a very special livery at that, can only mean one word: EPIC!

Patrick Hagelstein That was quick Murad! Welcome aboard! Currently I'm building the 1/72 version of this very bird but that is going to be a kit bashing massacre as I'm combining the Academy F-4J, Revell F-4F and ESCI F-4E into the Mother of all Phantoms. The 1/48 inflight version will be my Zen moment in between of that one.
F-4F WTD 61 (Academy/Revell/ESCI) | Project by Hagel (1:72)

Holger Kranich Hi guys! I had the pleasure to see her live! She´s a beauty!

Murad ÖZER i'm officially jealous!

Patrick Hagelstein I just filed an official jealousy form as well.

Christian W This looks quite interesting!

Patrick Hagelstein Hi Christian! Thanks! Sadly it's on a back burner for now as I have some modelclub 'commitment' going on now. But I can see the box from my workbench, so it still has my attention.

Christian W This is what I do with my "mid term projects" too If they are in sight, the always give me bad feelings about how ling they still sit and wait.

Patrick Hagelstein So true....

Hans Robben I wish that they would release the shelter and ground equipment in 1:48.....

Holger Kranich You are right, that would be cool! I am happy to have the stuff in 1:72. I searched for it for a long time.

Hans Robben Cool album picture, reminds me of some good times near the fence. Haven't been there since october 2011.

Holger Kranich Oh you have been at JG 71? My last time was at the Phantom Pharewell. I have often been there because the JG 71 and my home are in some kind of relationship. We visit them and they visit us.

Hans Robben Have a look here for some of my aircraft pictures, Wittmund was (as said) in 2011: hansrobben.eu/aircraftNL.php

Holger Kranich Very very cool Albums! I can watch ´em for hours!

Hans Robben Thanks, just put it on slideshow and (hopefully) enjoy!

Michael Hickey This is super cool, I'm in.

Murad ÖZER Here!

Stephan Ryll Yup this is a very nice setup! I'm in

Patrick Hagelstein In off course!

wilky It was kinda fortunate that the F-111C had those teething troubles otherwise the RAAF would never have flown the F-4E

Scott Dutton Yep, we have had a pretty good run of decent aircraft IMHO, From WW2 to JSF there hasn't been a real lemon amongst them. All generally good.

Holger Kranich Hi Alexander! This is what i found. Matches not a 100% but could be ok for you.
https://modellbau-koenig.de/..F-4-C-D-Phantom-Aetzteil-Set

Alexander Wallgren Thank you very much, sir. I'm going to get one and do some custom fitting. Thanks a million!

Hans Robben I built this kit long ago and it is nice but lacking details in some areas, including the cockpit. As far as I know there are no aftermarket cockpits for the ESCI Phantoms. I see you have a Hasegawa F4J in your stash and a Black Box F4J cockpit. Try using the Hasegawa cockpit parts for your ESCI F4B/J. The one Holger suggested is for an Airforce version and that is very different than the Navy cockpit.

Alexander Wallgren Great idea. I was thinking of making whatever cuts and modicifations to an existing resin cockpit and retrofitting. I may just put a better cockpit in, though historically incorrect, for the sake of better detail. The idea of putting water slide decals on the panel just doesn't do it for me. Thank you guys very much. This website is an invaluable asset for gathering good intel from other modelers. Even if I have to burn some money to find out what works, I'm gonna do it. Perhaps fitting a resin cockpit and adding Eduard panel details. Now that I'm retired, I have nothing but time. Thanks fellas.

Holger Kranich You are welcome, Alex! This site is worth gold!

Martin Oostrom Quiet Holger! Tim might get the idea of a subscription fee

Holger Kranich That would be catastropic for my wallet, Martin!

Kerry Cox I am really keen to see how this turns out Ed, as I have never really found an other Phantom that matched the Hasegawa "Viet Nam" version, But I am looking to do the Phantom in the Australian markings. (We had a Sqn of them while waiting for our F-111's.

Ed Hubbart Yes, I know. I have an ESCI/Ertl 1/72 F-4E/F that has markings for an Aussie bird. Sort of leaning toward those markings when I get to it. Not sure though.

Ross Gage I remember them at an airshow in Richmond. As I was only a little fellow it scared me enough to start crying when it flew over.

Kerry Cox I reckon the F-111's sounded even better than the Phantoms, as they made a sound like the air was being torn apart. Not a loud noise, but it certainly was a sound I have never heard any other jet fighter make. I loved it.
And I was always amazed to know they made it back to Amberley safe after making their low level runs just above the waves past the Gold Coast after their bombing practice at Evans Heads, about 100 yards off the beach, and how no 'bird strike' never happened was amazing.

M.Julian Marles Aw yeaaah!

Clifford Keesler Nothing howls like a pair of J-79s at lower power settings. @ Kerry I have a bloody Air Force of Revell Phantoms. I just buy aftermarket decal sheets. The kit is very inexpensive. As is their Tomcat both the "A" and "D". If my receleation is correct the Monogram/Revell phantoms are the old Hasegawa kit before Hasegawa went to recessed surface details. I use Hasegawa PE in them all the time. Good luck with the build Ed.

soheil moghisi Very nice.

Clifford Keesler Looking good Ed.

Don Alexander I love this kit.

Alexander Wallgren Just got this kit along with some True Detail MB Mk7 seats to liven it up a little. Was contemplating rescribing the panel lines, but based on how I was able to pin wash and post shade the Revell 1/48 F-105 panel lines with Flory's and Tamiya Westhering Master pastels, I'm just gonna use the same recipe. Anyone notice any major fit issues?

Kerry Cox In recent times, Monogram have cleaned up their dies and 'trued' the surfaces that has eliminate a lot of 'flash', so I would expect that as Monogram don't really have any 'fit' issues, well not as bad as Academy. ;-/
You should get a great result.

Alexander Wallgren Outstanding. Thanks Kerry!

Michael Hickey I've still got to get around to finishing of my 2 earlier Revell British re-boxing kits.

Clifford Keesler Yea, so where can you get the thing? LOL.

Christian Borchmann-Backhaus What versions can we build with this?

Augie Well it has all the parts so FGR Mk1 and 2.. so will cover all UK Spey Rhino's really

Christian Borchmann-Backhaus Ok... thank you

Clifford Keesler I still drool every time I look at this kit. Still no time frame for this side of the pond.

Augie Hehe it is a good kit, the decals are good too

Clifford Keesler So I have seen, on the kit reviews I have been watching.

Dave Flitton Watching

Patrick Hagelstein I'm in!!!

Andor Tóth Cool down guys, I'm just listing up here all my stash I got purchased in past years. As I have two babies, I have on time (and unfortunately place) for modeling at least for 2 more years...

Patrick Hagelstein We'll be patient..... Yes, that sometimes happens when live gets in the way of modeling... Congratulations on your babies by the way!

Frank Spahr I have started this kit, and will build it as one of the planes of Ark Royal´s air wing with the kit decals, a most elegant scheme in my eyes. Building this kit gives me a good excuse of re-watching my "Sailor" DVD´s, and I can look forward to the issue of the new Airfix Buccaneer later this year.

Konrad Limmer Very nice Frank count me in here...

Patrick Hagelstein Hard to believe this is that old tooling. It looks splendid!

Danumurthi Mahendra Thanks! Exhaustive work, @Patrick. not sure I would do that again, LOL

Patrick Hagelstein

Andy Ball Air Master pitot, AoA, and ram-air inlet

Patrick Hagelstein Off course we are very interested in your pictures.....

Clifford Keesler Very nice project Bill, I will watch.

Adrian Stratton-Baldwin Go to HKM website. This kit does not exist. It was a hoax.

Hans Robben my digging:
87-8409 F-4EJ M109 ex Hiko Kaih.J Withdrawn from use 04jul14 18nov18 digital camo c/s, on static

Augie Interesting how we have two different M numbers... ..

for what its worth the book i have on F-4EJ and Kai's (Military Aircraft of the JASDF F-4) has her as a non Kai..

Hans Robben Judging by the lack of external features specific for a kai I am sure it didn't recieve the ugrade thus a normal F4EJ.

Patrick Hagelstein I'll have some saké and ponder over it...

Michael Hickey She is defiantly a regular F-4EJ, no wingtips and no straps on the nose.

Patrick Hagelstein Contrary to Hans Robben's 1/48 scale version of this plane, for me this is a quick project in between my other more detailed attempts. But..... looking into the information provided by Augie, Hans and Michael, I might add a little detail here and there. Michael for example pointed out that this plane has strengthening plates under the stabilizers, which I will try to replicate tonight or tomorrow.

Konrad Limmer Hopefully I'm not to late...
Take a seat here and watch !

Patrick Hagelstein Please join in Konrad!

Clifford Keesler Where did you find the Hasegawa F-4's you sneaky Lass?

Augie Hehe evil bay I got another coming too

Clifford Keesler I can never seem to find them on evil bay, or when I do they want a kings ransome for them. LOL.

Clifford Keesler I have one, an F-4E. Have been trying to get ahold of the F-4J Showtime 100. eventually someone will have it in stock or I will find one on E-Bay. LOL.

Augie Hmmm i might have one...

Clifford Keesler I found one on E-Bay, but the guy wants 100.00, that is defenitley out of my budget range. LOL.

Augie ???? for a Hasegawa showtime 100?? bollocks to that

Clifford Keesler Yea. some of these people are nuts. What is worse someone wanted 99.00 plus 18.00 shipping for a Revell F-4C.

Augie O.o they are insane! I'd not pay that for an F-4.. a blackbird maybe.. but not a F-4

Clifford Keesler Especially a Revell F-4. A Blackbird yes I could see that.

scalemates Nice!