Scalemates F-4 Phantom II Group build 2022
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44 25 October 2021, 07:44
Daniel
Def. In and watching!
Maybe you can try this with the decals, seen in ytube that it works:
Mark Fit - Super Strong (Tamiya 87205, No)
Other than that its maybe enough to replace the stencils, those were the most stressful to get to conform/unsilver from my experience. You could get the complete set with what was it? 100k little stickers? Wouldnt that be fun?😆
Def. In and watching!
Maybe you can try this with the decals, seen in ytube that it works:
Mark Fit - Super Strong (Tamiya 87205, No)
Other than that its maybe enough to replace the stencils, those were the most stressful to get to conform/unsilver from my experience. You could get the complete set with what was it? 100k little stickers? Wouldnt that be fun?😆
25 October 2021, 11:42
Sergej I
Welcome all, I will start on Jan 1st 🙂
Lex, I've been looking at it and would have to order from US, no EU shops seem to have it.
But as Daniel pointed out, stencils are the trick here... so there are Eduard stencils available, but to me Eduard is pretty much the same decal as Tamiya, difficult to persuade...
Welcome all, I will start on Jan 1st 🙂
Lex, I've been looking at it and would have to order from US, no EU shops seem to have it.
But as Daniel pointed out, stencils are the trick here... so there are Eduard stencils available, but to me Eduard is pretty much the same decal as Tamiya, difficult to persuade...
26 October 2021, 13:45
Daniel
Yeah, I guess with eduard stencils you might make it worse🙈
These seem to be really nice+available:
Phantom Airframe Data (Stencil Type) (AOA decals 48-013, 1:48)
Yeah, I guess with eduard stencils you might make it worse🙈
These seem to be really nice+available:
Phantom Airframe Data (Stencil Type) (AOA decals 48-013, 1:48)
26 October 2021, 18:53
Spanjaard
You also have some nice sets from Hobbydecal. Dry transfers. Tons and tons of tiny stencils. Great fun
You also have some nice sets from Hobbydecal. Dry transfers. Tons and tons of tiny stencils. Great fun
26 October 2021, 20:02
Sergej I
I've been playing with Tamiya decals and some softers on a testbench Mirage, must admit that so far MicroSet and Tamiya Super Strong perform pretty much the same.
I did notice however that Eduard Navy F-4B Decals are of better quality... thinner and more submissive. Might try the stencils too.
I've been playing with Tamiya decals and some softers on a testbench Mirage, must admit that so far MicroSet and Tamiya Super Strong perform pretty much the same.
I did notice however that Eduard Navy F-4B Decals are of better quality... thinner and more submissive. Might try the stencils too.
31 October 2021, 08:27
Ben M
I find the Tamiya super strong can discolor paint. I haven't had this issue with micro set or sol
I find the Tamiya super strong can discolor paint. I haven't had this issue with micro set or sol
28 December 2021, 20:37
Daniel
🤔 so far no issues here (I use lacquer gloss before decals) Only very positive experiences so far with the stuff, much stronger than micro sol with the kitty hawk decals, really saved me in my current project
🤔 so far no issues here (I use lacquer gloss before decals) Only very positive experiences so far with the stuff, much stronger than micro sol with the kitty hawk decals, really saved me in my current project
28 December 2021, 20:52
Sergej I
Officially starting it! Taken the box off the shelf 😄
Tomorrow I will dig my nippers in plastic 👍
Officially starting it! Taken the box off the shelf 😄
Tomorrow I will dig my nippers in plastic 👍
1 January 2022, 18:32
Sergej I
Just dumping some data here... Shoehorn EW updates on the F-4B Navy Phantoms.
Although I am building mine as VF-51 CAG, I will have to build it according to Tamiya instructions as B option, the VF-111 Sundowners. This is because 3009 was already the post-shoehorn modded aircraft, only to be replaced in 1973 by the 0456 as CAG, which was a pre-shoehorn. And this is in the Tamiya option B.
Apart from more non-noticable antennae, the shoehorn mod introduced AN/ALQ-51/100 Forward Receive Antenna, which can be seen on the photo as the double chin.
Also visible modification to post-shoehorn will be RWR instrument in the cockpit, Quinta offers detailed instructions for all mods.
Get your shoehorn phacts here:
phantomphacts.blogspot.com/search?q=shoehorn
Just dumping some data here... Shoehorn EW updates on the F-4B Navy Phantoms.
Although I am building mine as VF-51 CAG, I will have to build it according to Tamiya instructions as B option, the VF-111 Sundowners. This is because 3009 was already the post-shoehorn modded aircraft, only to be replaced in 1973 by the 0456 as CAG, which was a pre-shoehorn. And this is in the Tamiya option B.
Apart from more non-noticable antennae, the shoehorn mod introduced AN/ALQ-51/100 Forward Receive Antenna, which can be seen on the photo as the double chin.
Also visible modification to post-shoehorn will be RWR instrument in the cockpit, Quinta offers detailed instructions for all mods.
Get your shoehorn phacts here:
phantomphacts.blogspot.com/search?q=shoehorn
1 January 2022, 20:50
Sergej I
OK, anyone with better knowledge of Phantoms, please...
Seems that the bird 3009 was on a short visit at NAS Miramar in Nov 1971, where it was also repainted.
Instructions in Tamiya say that the Sundowner 3019 was also repainted at Miramar in 1972 and that stencils for this version should not be used.
Looking at the reference pic, I can spot some vague stencil, but not nearly as many as per instructions...
So the question is, what is overpainted and what not at such overhauls, I am sure someone was wondering this before...
OK, anyone with better knowledge of Phantoms, please...
Seems that the bird 3009 was on a short visit at NAS Miramar in Nov 1971, where it was also repainted.
Instructions in Tamiya say that the Sundowner 3019 was also repainted at Miramar in 1972 and that stencils for this version should not be used.
Looking at the reference pic, I can spot some vague stencil, but not nearly as many as per instructions...
So the question is, what is overpainted and what not at such overhauls, I am sure someone was wondering this before...
2 January 2022, 13:06
tyu
Full stencils were only there for NAVY birds before repaint, after repaint most of the stencils were gone. Check individual aircraft pictures for accuracy.
Full stencils were only there for NAVY birds before repaint, after repaint most of the stencils were gone. Check individual aircraft pictures for accuracy.
2 January 2022, 13:41
Sergej I
Thanks tyu!
So, as I thought, side stencils will mostly be left out on the 3009 from 1971, must find some top and bottom references as well 🙂
Thanks tyu!
So, as I thought, side stencils will mostly be left out on the 3009 from 1971, must find some top and bottom references as well 🙂
2 January 2022, 13:57
tyu
Good luck sourcing those pics, I have been not able to find them. And if you do please tell me about them. I might need them for my build.
Good luck sourcing those pics, I have been not able to find them. And if you do please tell me about them. I might need them for my build.
2 January 2022, 14:04
Robin (WhiteGlint)
I would not call using Quinta decals as cheating, Sergej. No reason to feel ashamed, it looks great in the end, doesn't it? 😄
I would not call using Quinta decals as cheating, Sergej. No reason to feel ashamed, it looks great in the end, doesn't it? 😄
11 January 2022, 11:36
Sergej I
Thank you WhiteGlint I have made peace with myself and for sure I don't see myself signing up for an IPMS rivetcounting carnage 🙂
Ludwig, very welcome 🙂
Thank you WhiteGlint I have made peace with myself and for sure I don't see myself signing up for an IPMS rivetcounting carnage 🙂
Ludwig, very welcome 🙂
11 January 2022, 13:07
Hanno Kleinecke
These 3d decals really make an impressive effect, very convincing cockpit !
These 3d decals really make an impressive effect, very convincing cockpit !
17 January 2022, 07:07
Sergej I
Thank you for kind words and observations Dean, Rui and Hanno.
By now the plane is ready for priming, photos coming soon.
Thank you for kind words and observations Dean, Rui and Hanno.
By now the plane is ready for priming, photos coming soon.
17 January 2022, 07:16
Jos Jansen
Really nice work Sergej on the pit and the wheel bay as well...subtle weathering 👍!
Really nice work Sergej on the pit and the wheel bay as well...subtle weathering 👍!
17 January 2022, 09:42
Daniel
Pic 7: you should have said "took me a whole day to paint this cockpit, but its quite nice detail OOB" and wait for the reactions^^
Nice wheel bays as well 👍
Pic 7: you should have said "took me a whole day to paint this cockpit, but its quite nice detail OOB" and wait for the reactions^^
Nice wheel bays as well 👍
17 January 2022, 18:13
Sergej I
Hahhaa Daniel, true... took me whole day just to put the stickers on, too 😄
Hahhaa Daniel, true... took me whole day just to put the stickers on, too 😄
18 January 2022, 07:23
Sergej I
Welcome David, currently a bit busy with work, but projects will be won or lost and then I will phocus more on the Phantom! 🙂
Welcome David, currently a bit busy with work, but projects will be won or lost and then I will phocus more on the Phantom! 🙂
7 February 2022, 18:17
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Tamiya F-4B VF-51 Screaming Eagles - Supersonic Can Opener
F-4B BuNo.153009, the first VF-51 NL100, Block-26-MC.
The first CAG bird ditched off the Coral Sea in the Pacific on the 10th December 1972.
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F-4 Phantom II Group build 2022
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