Curtiss P-40B Tomahawk IIA
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2 August 2012, 20:07
Urban GardiniWheel wells? Green or Yellow Zinc Chromate or same colour as the interior or unpainted?
16 August 2012, 22:08
Urban GardiniI've done some research now n' it seems like it'll be interior green all over.
17 August 2012, 10:12
Vitor CostaHi Urban i agree with you interior green was used most of the time.
I will follow this with attention.
🙂
17 August 2012, 10:17
Urban GardiniThanks mates! I expect to get goin' more next week when my girlfriend goes back to work from her vacation.
17 August 2012, 10:19
Holger KranichI think its sometimes difficult to see what kind of colour was used. Some green bleaches out and looks more yellowish and vice versa...
17 August 2012, 11:15
Vitor CostaSome P-40 have the wheel bay painted wih the fuselage color, some in interior green and others with zink chromate, when i did a reaserch to paint mine i remember that the interior green was the one that i found most.
17 August 2012, 11:26
Urban GardiniThanks mates! I'll go with interior green on mine n' on the flaps IF I get to use 'em.
17 August 2012, 12:00
Dave FlittonBe careful what you see in museum aircraft. Many times the wrong color will be used. Originally it would be Yellow Chromate straight off the production floor, but, as the aircraft went through maintenance and rebuilding during the war, green chromate or interior green, or whatever is available will be used.
17 August 2012, 12:34
Urban GardiniThanks Dave! What do you say of me usin' Interior Green on everything except for yellow zinc chromate on the flaps that i hope to be able to use?
17 August 2012, 14:28
Dave FlittonI think the flaps were always zinc chromate. I have not seen any flaps in yellow. Zinc or interior green on the flaps are fine. Yellow was used in the cockpit and wheel wells unless you were Bell or Republic then they were sometimes Bronze Green in the early years of the war.
17 August 2012, 14:36
Bill GilmanThis will be a good one to watch. I have this same kit, it's very nice I think. Where did the decal sheet come from? My copy of this kit only has the AVG markings, and the sun is printed as it would appear "faded" almost a light pastel blue. The decal sheet you show looks much better, plus it has RAF markings.
17 August 2012, 15:28
Bill GilmanAh, never mind. I see from the kit number that the decals come from the Hobby Boss kit.
The Airfix kit shows frames on the front windscreen. I've heard that that is not right, and that there should be no frames - anyone know for sure?
17 August 2012, 15:35
Urban GardiniYes, I've got the decals from a friend. It's a shame that they're not darker still as they'd be perfect for the underside of the wings then with the Airfix ones for the upper wings as they got rather bleached by the sun.
As for the flaps I think that yellow zinc chromate would be an interestin' touch if I get to use the flaps.
17 August 2012, 16:38
Urban GardiniThinkin' ahead here a bit. The RAF Roundel Type B on the Hobby Boss decal sheet looks a bit oversized to my eye. Does anyone know what size it should be? I've got a set of roundels that I can use if I just knew the right size for it...
17 August 2012, 17:32
Bill GilmanThis photo shows the front windscreen without any frames:
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Does anyone have any war-time photos that show this? Cheers!
17 August 2012, 18:01
Dirk HeyerI`m not shure what exactly do you search?
There are many shotd in Tigers over China from Eagle Calls.
For excample this one of many others!
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17 August 2012, 19:51
Urban GardiniI ain't gonna do a Tiger as I'm gonna do a DAF bird set in the desert.
17 August 2012, 19:53
Dirk HeyerAAh, first read than post! 🙂
Here it is.
The frame on a wartime photo ot a Type B
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17 August 2012, 20:44
Dirk HeyerHi Urban,
I have researched all my fundus, and I`ve found some photos of interest.
I have the complete colour photo series of the P-40 B production in Buffalo.
The Flaps are like Dave had proposed in Interior Green FS 34151.
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Greetz
Dirk
19 August 2012, 09:09
Dirk HeyerSee also the photo album for you wth a lot of production photos.
P-40 B Production | Album by Vlat
19 August 2012, 09:19
Urban GardiniWell, thanks to my shaky hands there won't be any flaps for this build. I tried to solder one flap but it was impossible for me to do it without floodin' solder everywhere. But it saves time n' I can try it later on on another bird someday. But I did manage to solder the seat ok but the photo of it is shockin' as I don't see the bad paintin' with my own eye, the camera is brutal. I did have some troubles to get the intake grills in place as well n' isn't happy with the result but they'll barely be visible in the end so I've got to live with it. But due to the Eduard instructions not bein' clear enough I did manage to saw off the support to the dashboard when I removed the pedals, will think of some solution to that later on. Sigh, not my day at all today...
20 August 2012, 22:15
Bill GilmanWhen I built the 1:72 flaps for my Hunter I used superglue. I can't imagine trying to solder that together! Yikes!
Thanks to Dirk for those great photos. BTW, the first two show the front windscreen clearly. To my eyes it matches the restored photo that I posted. The front windscreen has an even curvature with reinforcing rods and a cross brace at the top. You can even see what looks like the bulletproof plate, clearly on the inside of the front windscreen.
I have a good friend who worked at Curtiss during the war, I will ask him. Also the Curtiss museum is about an hour's drive from my house. They have some nice archives.
21 August 2012, 13:24
Bill Gilmanairmodeller.tripod.com/48UsaP40b.htm
This review of the old Monogram kit describes how the internal braces (to which the bulletproof plate is attached) are commonly mistaken for frames. You can find many articles that support this claim. But I think that those assembly line photos show it best.
21 August 2012, 13:46
Bill Gilmankits.kitreview.com/p40btrump48reviewbg_1.htm
Here Brett Green describes the 1:48 Trumpeter kit, and he includes a nice photo of the correctly depicted front windscreen (Trumpeter got it right!).
The windscreen changed with the E model, if you look at the photos of the recent find in the Sahara you can what that looked like.
21 August 2012, 14:07
Urban GardiniNot much done today but it sure has taken a lot of time to do as little as I've done today. I'm not that positive to the Eduard Zoom PE after my experiences today. The printed paint on 'em is brittle n' tend to flake off when the PE get bent in shape, other than that it scratches even easier. The adhesive backin' on some of the parts make it quite difficult to clean the "sprue" connections from the parts after it's cut from the fret.
21 August 2012, 22:40
Urban GardiniThanks, I just hope it's worth watchin' with all my errors along the way...
21 August 2012, 22:50
Urban GardiniFinaly some progress with this build again after 3½ weeks inactivity...
16 September 2012, 19:38
Bill GilmanThat's great news! We're all looking forward to the next pictures!
16 September 2012, 23:08
Urban GardiniThanks mate! I hope to be able to get more work done tomorrow so I can put up more photos for you mate.
16 September 2012, 23:34
Wilfried BogaertsNice work Urban, those new Airfix kits are really fun builds and fun for the wallet too!
Think I'm gonna toss my Academy P-40B and smuggle a few of these Airfix'es inside 🙂
17 September 2012, 06:19
Zimmermaniaclooks like I'm gonna have to order that PE set myself, looks great here
17 September 2012, 11:46
Bill GilmanAre you going to use a vacuform canopy so you can open it up and show off that great PE work? The closed canopy is my one complaint about this kit.
17 September 2012, 16:39
Urban GardiniNope, I'm goin' with the original canopy here. I usually builds my birds with a closed canopy.
17 September 2012, 17:02
Urban GardiniHaven't been able to do much today due to my neck pains n' have only sat down by the bench a couple of minutes per session over the day so today's progress isn't much. But I've managed to mask the bird n' drill out the exhaust pipes at least.
17 September 2012, 21:49
Bill GilmanNeck pains? Man I hope it's not disc related. Those are killer pains to deal with.
18 September 2012, 00:25
Urban GardiniWell, I've got two whip lash injuries in my neck but there's those who have it worse than me.
18 September 2012, 07:15
Urban GardiniThanks mates! It's up n' down with some days with less ache but never a day without any pain.
18 September 2012, 14:41
Bill GilmanI have severe lower back pain (eight surgeries with the last one just this past May). Doctors are already talking about surgery number 9. I deal with it by "doping." I call it better living through chemistry. 🙂
PS. All the drugs are legal!!
18 September 2012, 16:54
Urban GardiniI know mate n' I guess that your pain is much worse than mine but it's your pain n' I've got mine n' they don't compare 'cos there's nothin' to compare with. I deal with my pain with painkillers as well.
18 September 2012, 17:54
Holger KranichIts coming together. Looks very good, Urban. Especially the crosshairs are a detail, i love on the Warhawkseries.GREAT WORK!8)
What kind of camo will you apply here? The one from the box?
21 September 2012, 06:20
Urban GardiniThanks mate, this one won't be like the box as I'm gonna shoot it with Middle Stone, Dark Earth n' Azure...
21 September 2012, 07:08
Holger KranichRAFstyle pattern is clear, i was just talking about the colour mix;). Those RAF coloures where used on aircraft based on carriers?
21 September 2012, 08:11
Holger KranichYou just pre-cut them on your cuttingmat and applyed them after?
25 September 2012, 09:20
Urban GardiniYeah, that's what I normaly do. Here I've cut small strips of 6mm tape freehand with a scissor n' puzzled it all together on the bird.
25 September 2012, 09:25
Holger KranichThat would have been my approach, too! The result speaks for itself!
25 September 2012, 09:35
Holger KranichOh yes, i can imagine that! And the scale dont makes it easyer!
25 September 2012, 09:39
Holger KranichIts looking pretty good! I never expected such nice details from an Airfixkit. But this is a new tool, isnt it?
25 September 2012, 11:06
Wojciech KuczaSo far looking great! And the kit itself is quite nice, even without PE there's quite some details 🙂 Looking forward to finished plane!
25 September 2012, 11:12
Urban GardiniEven I as well is lookin' forward to see it completed as I'm participatin' in a groupbuild with it over at SP&R n' the deadline is now at sunday, tick tock...
25 September 2012, 12:57
Urban GardiniTick! Tock! I'm in the process of puttin the decals in place right now! One by one. This is the first time I work with Hobby Boss decals n' they're so far fairly easy to work with but a little stiff. We'll see how they turn out after some Micro Sol n' a layer of Tamiya X-35.
25 September 2012, 15:02
Philip De KeyserNice camo sheme and a very fine paintjob you've did there, looking great, greetz Phil
25 September 2012, 16:06
Urban GardiniThanks mate! I've just applied Micro Sol on the first decals. Now it's just a matter of waitin' a bit before I can turn it 'round n' continue with the Sol treatment.
25 September 2012, 16:51
Bill GilmanLooking great, mate! Thanks for sharing the photos, now I can refer to them when I build my P-40! 🙂
25 September 2012, 20:41
Urban GardiniThanks mates!
Bill, hurry up 'cos it's a lovely little kit to build n' do get the PE for it...
25 September 2012, 21:00
Urban GardiniThe decals is in place n' a layer of Tamiya X-35 on top of 'em as well.
26 September 2012, 09:36
Urban GardiniThe fan is done! I'm amazed that the Airfix decals is readable n' not just some unreadable blotches...
26 September 2012, 23:38
Bill GilmanYes, but Randy the Rivet Counter says you have to check your references to see if the serial numbers on the prop are the correct numbers for the P-40 you're modelling. 🙂 🙂 🙂
27 September 2012, 01:48
Dirk HeyerAre Rivet Counters sighted here on SM???
I thought it's hunting season, wanna shot my first Rivet Counters antler!!!!
🙂
27 September 2012, 17:40
Wilfried Bogaerts🙂 🙂 🙂 Rivet Counters may be hunted throughout the year. Each year the season starts the 1st of January at 0:00 and ends December the 31st at 23:59:59. Show no mercy, the only good Rivet Counter is a dead Rivet Counter.
27 September 2012, 17:59
Augie**Best said in Elmer Fudd voice** Shhhhh.... Be Vewy, vewy qwiet... I'm huting Wibbit counters..."
27 September 2012, 18:05
Augie🙂 Thanks Bill.. i can only take credit for the caption.. the rest was found 🙂
27 September 2012, 18:18
Wilfried BogaertsThey refused to permit Augie to participate in Britain's got Talent, the winner would be known from the begining and there would be no competition. Augie is a class on its own.
27 September 2012, 18:24
Augiehehe just you wait...i just found my 1:48 ground crew set... time to make a mini me
27 September 2012, 18:44
Urban GardiniSome more PE in place plus brake cables done with 0.2mm led wire. Other than that some lights have been painted n' the exhaust stacks is in place.
27 September 2012, 22:30
Urban GardiniAnd finaly it's done n' in time as well. I guess that it's ok now to get some more sleep instead of beein' awake 'til 03:00 every night. I just hate deadlines...
28 September 2012, 23:42
Urban GardiniThanks mates! I'm fairly satisfied with how it turned out in the end.
29 September 2012, 07:59
Wilfried BogaertsVery very nice McCoy! And I like the way you displayed it, very eyecatching ! 🙂
29 September 2012, 09:10
Dirk HeyerWell done, Mr. McCoy!
The Africa sheme is my favorite camo for Tomahawks too. I`ve done several years ago, a 48 scale Trumpeter Tomahawk from 12. Sqn in Africa.
Congrats for your model! 🙂
29 September 2012, 09:14
Urban GardiniThanks mate! It's a beautiful camo on the Spitfire as well som I'll return to the camo pattern in the future. That's certain.
29 September 2012, 09:19
Philip De KeyserCongrats with the result Urban, love this camo sheme, very nice display where the Tomahawk turned out great, greetz Phil
29 September 2012, 15:19
RobbieSo looking through your build, you mention for interior color (colour) to use Humbrol #151. What is it? The Humbrol site does not have a 151 in the list. Is it now 226? Please enlighten me 😎
5 May 2015, 01:33
Urban GardiniSorry but it's an old colour that is OOP since long now. Nearly all my Humbrol Enamels is from the eighties. The #151 was the one that was the closest colour hue that Eduard have used for the PE.
5 May 2015, 10:21
Soeren R.Nice and clean build! Have this kit also in my stash and after your pics I really think I need to start it soon 🙂
5 May 2015, 10:23
Holger KranichHi Urban, thats a great build. You didnt wanted to attach the flaps, after having so much work with them? But the coolest is the crosshair in front of the canopy! It looks marvelous to me!
5 May 2015, 13:48
Urban GardiniThanks mate! I didn't have the time to order a new PE set and start all over again with the flaps. I was done with it only a few days before the timelimit and that was lucky as I won a great price with this one. A Eduard MiG-21bis + a lot of Eduard goodies...
5 May 2015, 17:48
Urban GardiniI got more kits and PE as well so I've got plans for at least one P-40B with dropped flaps. But the price I won also led to a severe case of Eduard MiG sickness... McCoy;
6 May 2015, 08:16
Holger KranichOh yep, MiG sickness is confirmed and i see that you have nough stuff to cure you from AMS 😉
6 May 2015, 08:33
Urban GardiniIt all began with a wish to go all in with the bis and I ordered the few missing extras that wasn't included with the price but it didn't stop there as Eduard shortly after that announced the BFC and the rest is as they say history...
6 May 2015, 08:44
