September 7, 2021
Northrop Grumman have pitched an evolution of the YF-23 to Japan for its F-3 program so we may yet see it produced in some form.
Awesome painting !!
Still in awe 👍
Awesome work slavo, great to see you back with this epic double project! Always like your unique way of adding interest to certain kit parts with ship PE 🙂
Also I like your approach looking at it more as an artist improving his composition than counting rivets, translating stencils and resizing blue prints🙂
Thanks John, Gary, Sergej, James, Clifford, bughunter, Sven & Daniel!
I'll try to keep both kits going +/- parallel. Prospect of completion also opens some placement issues - I managed to squeeze in the F-23, but adding even one MiG will require some deeper going room re-shape... But we're not there yet, not even close 🙂
bughunter, Sven and Daniel - thanks for your (exceptionally tolerant) views 😄 Daniel actually got it, I just try to interpret the "archetypical" forms and highlights so they +/- work in scale... If the whole works, I am happy, no need to look back for any minutiae... (except when it is a Flanker, of course... 😄)
Lol! Your statement about the Flanker makes me cherish your kind comments on my Flanker build. I'm loving your work on the gun. I went the lazy way:
MiG-31 GSh-6-23M gun (Katran K4806, 1:48)
August 26, 2021
I understand this is a what-if build but praising this paint job has more to do with personal preference than fidelity. If one would build this as the closest thing in real-life like the F-22 or F-35 it wouldn't look like this, these stealth jets were kept immaculate, one of the things that kept these jets stealth in the first place. The achieved effects would be more appropriate for 4th gen. So IMHO: it looks nice but not accurate for the stealth jet generation.
Really nice result and inspiring build. Really shows the beauty of these stealth fighters. Also amazing modifications.
Thanks tyu and Vincent!
@tyu I understand where you are aiming & there certainly is a lot of material showing stealth jets in pristine conditions - but:
F-35´s are pretty much right out of the blister pack looking new because they are new (same for J-20)
F-22´s on the other hand show a lot of wear in recent years. Problems with stealth paint degradation, raising cost of maintenance & I have read that there is at least a discussion that only a part of the fleet needs to be kept in 80% stealth coat condition, part in 50%+ and a part even below 50% Also the type seems to be in discussion for retirement around 2030 for ..."reasons"... 🙂
Here are 2 pics of an apparently real used F-22 (same plane - 156):
- tonal variation on single panels
- paint cracking
- visible rivets & dark streaks
- wear & grime around intake & different panels
- different levels of sheen (LG door, airframe, panels)
- completely different tones & darkening wear on the side-weapons-bay doors
So if we take the scenario with the F23 replacing the F22, they would face the same issues. With the 23 shape being more stealthy than the 22, the coat may even be somewhat less important and may be renewed less often. My specimen flies from Alaska, weather & all = even more strain & wear. So fantasy yes, but not unplausible - at least so I dare think 😄
Just stating my 2 cents Slavo. YMMV but my search https://www.google.com/search?q=ak+f-22&rlz=1C1ASUM_enNL691NL691&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjOw9nh1czyAhVaPewKHfvzAMYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=958&bih=1047#imgrc=ZbDCbD_uaCDxEM does not reveal results anything like your build. And your build does not look at all like the images you provided. But as long as you are happy with the results, that is fine with me, it is what matters in the end. It is a what-if, right?
Just to be clear - I totally appreciate the comments, and agree that I have not seen any stealth plane displaying this, or close to this exact effects in the flesh. I just enjoyed the freedom of the scenario, experimented with all kinds of things & landed roughly here, going broadly along the lines of the 3D renders used as inspiration. I even used different colors to those recommended for Raptors, so pure fantasy/impression from render pictures here...
I still like the discussion though - absolutely in a positive attitude - regardless of the What-if-23 here (old over-weatherer 😉 ):
I did a bit of study on the stealth coating and it´s behavior and found a very wide variety depending on what I assume is light conditions and actual state of coating/degradation - while most times, especially on the ground in clear light, Raptors look like those in your article (cool show on the runway!), variety seems to go really wide:
i.e. Interesting pics i.e. here:
F-35 new vs (still good looking) Raptor already shows aging difference + picture below shows some more serious degradation...
Apparently, the real-life range is from this:
(I´d love to actually make this particular F-22, as seen on this pic one day 🙂 )
Also, there is some possible "action" going on in the engine-section of the belly:
The IMHO most likely explanation from how far I came is that with age, the Raptor skin degrades severely and the planes grime/darken/leak & do things which planes do and it´s worsening these years and becoming more of an issue + together with Raptors not being as secret as they used to be, pictures pop-up as parts of the fleet are being left less attended (cost) so we now see these and other pics. I actually like the "new look" and would love to know more
Thanks for any further constructive insights!
August 23, 2021
Hey Kerry - not really - and I'm sure we got several versions (Kids 9 & 7 years old in the house 🙂 ). Thanks for the hint & will try!
I wonder about Crystal clear though - I got a bottle, rel. thick clear stuff, but when applied, dries into a yellowed shrunk excuse for glass, looking more like shed snake skin or something I wanted... 😄 Do I have a bad charge or something? I remember making windows on a 700-scale ship 20 years ago with this stuff, but my current one purchased 2 years ago does not work at all... Ideas?
Anyway, thanks for thinking ahead for me my friend and keep up the good work, always happy to watch a KC show! 😉
Slavo. 😉 It's time to give your old Crystal Clear the flick mate. !
I used to use 'Clear fix' by Humbrol, but then I discovered a product that most school kids use as a paper glue. It is as clear as pure water and can be cleaned up with water if you have it squeeze past where it in not supposed to be. This is the link, but it's sold world wide. https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Is+there+a+clear+Elmer%27s+Glue?&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=T7EgddUk-s5BLM%252COhZFCyTfpsP8AM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kRgx_KYAKSkG_yD1iOJyLJbXAf_WA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwifwc3cgMfyAhUSb30KHW8bA_sQ9QF6BAgOEAE#imgrc=T7EgddUk-s5BLM
Thanks for your reply, and it's always a pleasure to see your work. 🙂 👍
You sure did hit a home run with this one. OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!
Thanks ZHOU Kun, Björn, Mateusz, Clifford and Giuseppe!
Björn the Kinetic F-18 kit, with a lot of version-based & double parts is a great base for such works - it featured 2 set of main gear legs, making the retracting position easier to set-up with sawing & re-connecting the legs.
Mateusz - I spent a lot of time brooding over photos in different lights & angles to get the dark color right. Make it too grey or too blue and it just kills the appearance - suggestions from instructions were obviously wrong, I mixed various combinations of greys & blues and checked them in various light conditions before arriving at a tone I liked 🙂
That is absolutely fantastic! Photo 20, what a stunning job on that metal work! Congratulations on this perfect result!
Thanks Jasper! The GWH Flanker was probably the best OOB material I got my hands on so far, leaves you all the creative energy for your own ideas & improvements 🙂
I can really recommend MRP metals - on smaller areas as engines, they IMHO perform as good as Alclads, dry faster & stink less... + they really go well with oils, providing an excellent base for experimentation!
August 11, 2021
Haha, thanks Spanjaard & John...
This was done as a straight OOB job in the time my old (youth) equipment was already gone, but several years before my recent "re-entry" into the hobby. I wanted a nice office-table weight, saw the kit & it proved really nice - I only had some basic black, silver & some old oil & a bottle of (not odourless) turpentine as solvent, just pimped the contents of the box here & there really...
Turned out nice, still sits on the table, resisting all the elements an office life can throw at it! 😄
This is awesome. Would love to get the kit myself 👍
James, if you see one, definitely grab it, it´s a walk in the park and really nice parts & stuff - there were 1:6 scale 3 engines AFAIK, the smallblock really not cutting it, but this one and the ´vette engine are a good show!
I really feel ashamed getting any credit for this, it´s virtually: open box - put parts together & polish/sand/stress a few surfaces + some basic weathering... 😄
Your too modest mate, and If I come across one at a reasonable price I definitely will!
Very cool. Great piece of plastic!
August 8, 2021
Thanks Christian, Maciej, Patrick, Konrad, Dominik, Augie & Jos!
@Christian - sorry to be so late - very happy to be called "likely minded" by the maker of such formidable big-scale machines and some very cool loking shaded finishes😉
@Maciej - a Block 52+ F-16 is very tempting indeed - I have a soft spot for 4th-gen modernizations which change the original´s shape and create "ugly ducklings" like this or the MiG-29 SMP...
@Jos - bud, I´m just a careful follower & interpreter of what I see the "big one´s" do😉 But this model was so far my happiest start-to-finish run, always bringing a smile to my face...
A feast for the eyes. Wonderful paintwork and colour modulation 👍
Just amazing as always Slavo, well done sir. Nice to see you back.
Sir you have infected me with this one Slavo!
Ordered the 1/72 Hasegawa and for the first time i will do a post war japanese Aircraft.
Thanks Christian, Clifford & Daniel - I was dusting-off my collection today, most parts are still as per picture 🙂 This was a really pleasant build, I'm sure I'll re-visit the 104 at some time again!
April 30, 2021
😄 Nice work. Huge sub! No build pictures? That must have taken a couple MRP bottles of paint. What airbrush did you use? It seems this "You paint it. I only want to build stuff" is normal at that age as it's the same thing with my son, who I've been trying to get in this hobby for a couple of years.
Thanks Clifford! - surely was "something else" 🙂
@Black Baron - nothing really interesting to report during the build... the ol´lady sports a rather good fit, actually excellent given the size and my usual cockpit tends to have more parts than this whole kit... 😄 project was in the "painting phase" before I managed to pull out a camera....
Precisely 2/3 of MRP black went on it, over a dark grey prime-coat in a somewhat cloudy pattern. Thought I´d need more, franky...
+ In my experience with the kids it´s really about catching the "window of interest" for a subject - then things go +/- smoothly...
Interesting comment re the kids. I think with younger kids it's more about the destination rather than the journey. As they get older the journey has some points of interest they look forward to. And really big kids only care about how many extra parts you can fit in a cockpit!
That Sub Brief YouTube channel looks intriguing - I hadn't seen it before. I'll poke around at a few videos. Thx.
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Thank you - so you apply the oil dots, wait an hour or more for them to dry, then start the removal process. Let it dry more, the next day do more removal. I always let oils dry for a week or so after I use them for weathering, they do take quite a while to fully dry.
That's some great advice on using oils Slavo 👍
Just can't get enough of this beauty.... Thanks for upping it Guillaume 👍
I just about spit my coffee all over my computer screen... fanTAStic!
I'm speechless sir.
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