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Martin von Schreckenstein (mnn)
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MF and UB (3924 + 8325) and 2x ML (3303 + 3304)

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35 28 December 2022, 18:55
Villiers de Vos
I am sure you will do it justice.
29 December 2022, 13:03
Marius
Good luck mate!
I assume you know how this kit is, so you know what you are embarking into.
29 December 2022, 18:32
Maciej Bellos
Watching!
29 December 2022, 21:20
Martin von Schreckenstein
Marius, welcome. I was preparing myself mentally for years but now that I actually see the kits I have to admit that substantial further meditations will be required to ensure progress haha

Welcome Villiers and Maciej
31 December 2022, 09:31
Sylvain Vernier
The force be with you! 🙂
31 December 2022, 16:55
Andy Ball
Oh, wow. Going in?…good luck!
31 December 2022, 17:05
Martin von Schreckenstein
welcome Sylvain and Andy. i did not uave time to visit the workshop but next step is the cockpits. i am gonna open the MF and try to open the backseat of the UB
3 January 2023, 13:32
Andy Ball
I'm guessing you've checked other's work on these kits on here?, I'm sure they'll give you a heads-up on what to expect?
3 January 2023, 18:19
Marius
Good decision at cutting those air vents. Btw, now it's the right time to decide if you also want to drill the large holes for the lights (beneath the air intakes) and attach the clear parts as well. It's tricky, but worth it.
3 January 2023, 18:47
Łukasz Gliński
Joining the party 👍
4 January 2023, 12:59
Martin von Schreckenstein
hello and welcome Andy, Marius and Lukasz. Thanks Marius for pointing out those lights - I attempted to drill them out with a passable result.

I am also finishing up the interiors. i chose to open the backseat of 8325 and the 3924 is to be open also - the resin cockpits were distributed and prepared to reflect that but I am still not quite happy with how they turned out. I will leave them for now, the instrument panell will be the most visible and there is not much to do about that save for buying some additional PE parts.

also regarding the surface detail - it is correct and extensive but very pronounded. I did a pass with surfacer to fill it somewhat. i want the planes smoother as they seem in the pictures. that is what i want to focus on with this build. good filling and sanding so that the shape is nice at least, especially around the cockpit
16 January 2023, 15:42
Michael Kohl
Congrats on the ClearProp Floggers. I suppose you are aware of the issues of this kit - nice as it looks. If not I recommend sneeking into one or two build threads to minimize disappointment.
24 December 2023, 20:41
Martin von Schreckenstein
Hi Michael. Since my favorite 1/72 F-14 is Hasegawa and I am currently building two KP Floggers, I'd say the issues in Clear Prop kits are not something that would disappoint me🙂 I did research them anyway though🙂
24 December 2023, 21:42
DerMattes
Watching with interest 👍
25 December 2023, 18:51
Martin von Schreckenstein
wanted to catch up the ClearProp MLs to the KP bunch.

For a little mini review - I have to say that ClearProp definitely made the cockpit a little too complicated for its own sake so simplifying the process as opposed to the PE instructions could potentially yield better looking result for clumsy modellers like me🙂 otherwise, joining the lower hull part with the completed nose should be done with care and a lot of dry fitting, sawing and sanding. In any case though, I am wary of criticising the kit too much as this is the first time there is an 1/72 flogger kit that actually fits and looks like a flogger OOB. Keeping possible flaws in mind, I am still extremely happy with the kit.

Furthermore, I decided to use the extra clearProp clear parts and graft them onto the KP models. Process was successful with the MF but the UB actually has entirely different windshield shape which of course I know but didn't realize until AFTER cutting into the plastic. You win some, you lose some I guess.. Will try to fix it and I don't think hurt the kit much as opposed to the original haha

I am slowly filling the disaster that are the KP hulls and there is nothing the Clearprop kits can throw at me that would be more annoying than that.
29 January, 14:02
Cuajete
Interesting project. Following!
29 January, 19:22
Nicolas
Following
29 January, 20:27
Sergej I
Following, looking great 👍
29 January, 21:08
Martin von Schreckenstein
hi and welcome Cuajete, Nicolas and Sergej! I don't have any further pictures but I am currently eating my words! specifically: "there is nothing the Clearprop kits can throw at me that would be more annoying than that."
I am putting together the nose and the rest of the hull plus dryfitting the top part and tears were shed, blood was spilled, sweat was flowing.

The kit is engineered but it is nit entirely clear to the modeller what the engineering specifically is. a tiny mistake at the start easily compounds into serious fit issues later which could still be considered a fun problem solving except that you mostly have no idea where the fit problem originates and the resulting fumbles compound the issues even more. I do not regret my (expensive) purchase but in the end, I have to admit - this is an extremely difficult kit.
6 February, 12:12
Alec K
Taking a belayed seat. I have read not-so-positive reviews of the CP release already, so not surprised to read your observations. Maybe I'll keep my RV kit for a while yet…
6 February, 14:04
Martin von Schreckenstein
Hi Alec, I wouldn't - Despite all the issues with clearprop - it actually looks like a flogger. RV doesnt really
6 February, 16:07
Alec K
Are there any specific areas of concern, or is it all wrong?
7 February, 01:46
Martin von Schreckenstein
I particularly dislike the windshield area - thats why I used the leftover clear parts from clearprop on the MF. in the case of the UB I will certainly try but I dont think there is much you can do to make the windshield and the canopies to look well.
7 February, 10:21
Pierre Pierre
taking a sit
7 February, 21:54
Alec K
Thanks Martin 👍
9 February, 13:53
S M
I'm late taking a seat. So you are building four MiG-23s and not just three?
9 February, 18:30
Guy Rump
Following 👍
10 February, 09:03
Martin von Schreckenstein
Hello everyone. yes, i am building KP MF, RV UB and two ClearProp MLs, four in total
13 February, 10:19
Martin von Schreckenstein
one day all that putty is gonna be sanded off
14 February, 16:24
Cuajete
Well done so far 👍
14 February, 19:46
S M
Nise portrait 😎
15 February, 22:20
Martin von Schreckenstein
thanks Cuajete and S M.

Paint is getting near! I will have to redo the masking on the UB canopies as the masks I got from Peewit are +- useless. sanding the airframes (especially the exhaust, vertical tabs and the speedbrakes) is mostly done.
22 February, 13:18
Oliver
This is an interesting project. Here i have to stay tuned
22 February, 13:20
Martin von Schreckenstein
Welcome Oliver!
I will finish the MLs with black base and then I will paint the details like the nozzles and the antenna covers. Everyone has pylons now and gear wells are masked off to an extent
26 February, 10:20
Martin von Schreckenstein
Freehanding the camo. On last ML to do. After that I will look at the canopy seals, light gloss coat and stencils. I am itching to start on some tomcats but these migs are still quite a handful 🙂
3 April, 15:49
Cuajete
Very nice painting job. Looking so good 👍
3 April, 17:48
Łukasz Gliński
Love these colours on the Floggers 👍
3 April, 19:54

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