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F.K.8 Work In Progess

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91 24 January 2023, 20:21
bughunter
Directly after this kit was released I ordered it as Mid type in the "Premium Edition". I contains not only a resin engine, but also more PE parts and are made of nickel silver. As far as I know the normal kit contains brass PE.
After the finished SE.5a project I tried to work on some shelf queens, but without big success.
So I decided to try another a nearly out-of-box build, as the kit provides fantastic features and details.
24 January 2023, 20:42
Erik
Wundervolle Metallarbeiten. 😉 👍
25 January 2023, 09:16
Hans-Jürgen Haag
👍👍👍 gut gelötet, kann nicht jeder bei so futzeligen teilen.
25 January 2023, 09:26
Christoph Kunz
Nearly oob? I want to know how this ends. 😉
25 January 2023, 09:43
gorby
I've heard very good things about Copper State Models so I'm interested to see how you are going to improve it - because you're going to aren't you? 😉
Somehow I don't think of you having a shelf of doom. Do you have many builds in limbo?
25 January 2023, 09:53
Robert Podkoński
"Nearly OOB" you say... I love when you're joking this way, Bughunter 😉 Watching (and learning) with pleasure and interest, of course!
25 January 2023, 10:36
bughunter
Thank you very much and a warm welcome to the new show!

@Erik and Hans I like to work with metal and solder 😉
Regarding oob: I will try the same style as with my recent SE.5a with only a very small amount of replaced parts. I learned from another build log that the tail is not strong enough to hold the model so here we will see brass too.

@gorby I had a very nice experience with my Sopwith Dolphin Sopwith 5F.1 Dolphin | Project by bughunter (1:48) I got a very nice feedback from CSM 😉
That was the first injection moulded kit of CSM. This F.K.8 seems to be even better!
The resin engine is so nice so I think about a possibility to open the nice panels.

Since I own two KVISSLE Letter trays with cork, I have even more of these shelf queens in different states. This morning I count 9 (in words nice!) of them. I hope this F.K.8 will not enter this line .... I think every modeler has some, don't you?
25 January 2023, 13:13
Kyle DeHart
Excellent. These are always fantastic and informative in every way. Sign me up
25 January 2023, 15:04
gorby
Actually no, I've never had a shelf of doom. Every model I start get finished.
It's a lot easier when your standards are lower. 😄
25 January 2023, 15:39
Chris Derksen
Gotta love the Big Ack. Nice to see one in 48. I built the Pegasus in 72 many years ago. Looking forward to watching this one.
25 January 2023, 15:55
bughunter
Welcome Kyle and Chris!
@gorby, that is very exemplary to complete any project 👍 Sometimes I put a project aside if I can't find an immediate solution to a problem. And then sometimes it sits for a while and gets overtaken by other projects.
25 January 2023, 17:16
David Taylor
Here we go.
25 January 2023, 18:07
bughunter
Welcome David, glad you don't miss a build!
I have added pictures of the insides of the fuselage. A lot of work has gone into it, but there are still parts missing before the fuselage can be closed.
25 January 2023, 20:27
Eric Martin
Great job
25 January 2023, 20:31
bughunter
Thank you Eric!
@Chris I forgot to mention that the F.K.8 is a huge bird in 1:48! That is the biggest biplane that fits in my cabinet (at least I hope so).
26 January 2023, 08:12
Vytautas
It's really impressive! 👍
26 January 2023, 08:37
Ludvík Kružík
Here comes another gem from bughunter! It will be a great pleasure to watch 👀 and learn 😉
26 January 2023, 09:14
bughunter
Thank you mates! I hope to show some more pictures later today.
26 January 2023, 10:38
Marcel Klemmer
Ah, a new project. I am in.👍
26 January 2023, 16:09
bughunter
Ah, good to see you! I thought you were still sitting in front of the TV watching handball.
26 January 2023, 17:28
Pietro De Angelis
Awesome work!
26 January 2023, 18:28
Christian Bruer
Always a pleasure to see what you are working on - excellent work so far 👍
26 January 2023, 18:32
bughunter
Thank you so much for your kind words - a pleasure to read 👍
I uploaded pictures of the new target sight.
As I try this time a speed build, I started today to work on the wings. For me it is fast, for others may be slow. I do not understand the concept of a "Weekend kit" as I'm working here nearly a complete week and I'm far from finish. May be two weeks? But this depends also on drying time of oil paints fro example on the seat.
26 January 2023, 20:26
Villiers de Vos
Bughunter, you work is exceptionally good.
27 January 2023, 03:55
bughunter
Wow, thank you Villiers!
I have the pleasure of working on an exceptionally good kit. Stay tuned, because more fantastic features will be shown.
27 January 2023, 13:08
bughunter
Yesterday, I was blown away by the news that my good friend Roland passed away after a stroke in the age of 54. I was stunned and unable to continue here.
Now I have decided to dedicate this model to him.
I have not worked on the model but have not shown yet the painted wings.
28 January 2023, 17:28
Kyle DeHart
I am very sorry to hear about your friend. Positive thoughts to you
28 January 2023, 17:35
Ludvík Kružík
I feel for you. Losing a friend is always sad. I wish you will soon come to terms with the pain and have fond memories of your friend.

Dedicating the building of this model to your friend is a great idea to honor his memory.
29 January 2023, 10:07
Alec K
I am so sorry to hear that Frank, my sincerest condolences. I can't but echo Ludvik's words. Hang in there.
29 January 2023, 14:27
Robert Podkoński
My sincere condolences too, Frank.
29 January 2023, 15:03
bughunter
Thank you mates for your warm and supportive words!
1 February 2023, 10:13
bughunter
The painting guide of the manual shows green struts, but I like the impression of the box art of the kit with wooden struts more. If I carefully study the picture of this original aircraft (marking D) the struts _may_ be wooden. Some aircraft have a fabric wrap around the struts which have then been painted green, but in this case it doesn't look like it.
Instead of painting the very fragile kit struts like wood I made new ones from real wood and created safe mount points.
1 February 2023, 18:15
bughunter
I started to work on the Beardmore with a power of 160 h.p. That is interesting from the history point of view, as it was developed from the 120 h.p. Beardmore, and that one starts as licensed-built version of the Austro-Daimler, now opponents of the WWI. I have built the Austro-Daimler in 1:16, see here: Aero-Daimler 120 PS | Project by bughunter (1:16)
The engine is not yet finished. May pipes, wires, carburettor, plugs, .... needs to be added.
3 February 2023, 19:43
gorby
Every element of your builds is a work of art in itself. The engine is beautiful!
4 February 2023, 07:00
bughunter
gorby, I once read that in a signature of a model builder: "Treat each component as if it were its own model; in this way you will complete more models in one day than others do in a lifetime." So I try to follow that rule 🙂
4 February 2023, 12:35
Ludvík Kružík
That's very good advice. And your models are proof that it works. 👍

I really like that you replaced the plastic struts and propellers with wooden ones. What kind of wood are you using for the struts and propellers?
5 February 2023, 10:49
bughunter
Thanks Ludvik!
For such fine grained wood I got the recommendation from model sail ship builders to use wood of fruit trees, and got some remains. I think that is mainly pear wood, but also cherry and others.
5 February 2023, 17:58
Ludvík Kružík
bughunter, thank you for your detailed response. I was intrigued by the fine texture of the wood. Some woods are not suitable for 1:48 scale because of their distinctive texture.
Also, I was wondering if you prepare the thin wood boards for gluing the propellers yourself or do you use thin veneers?
5 February 2023, 21:26
Kyle DeHart
Beautiful stuff!
5 February 2023, 22:05
bughunter
I prefer veneer, but typically this is not thin enough (you can buy veneer with 0.6 to 0.8mm) and have to be sanded down. The needed thickness depends on the size of airscrew and the number of layers. A good photo helps here.
I also cut my own "veneer" stripes on a circular saw with a thin blade from a 5-6mm wood block. Very tricky, that's why I prefer veneer.
5 February 2023, 22:14
Guy Rump
Following. 👍
5 February 2023, 22:29
Hanno Kleinecke
Wow, that engine looks like it will crackle to life any minute, fantastic work !
6 February 2023, 20:26
bughunter
Welcome to this show Guy and Hanno!
Thx, the engine looks nice but is not yet complete here, The carburetor alone is a nice thing, pics soon..
6 February 2023, 20:58
Ludvík Kružík
Thank you for your reply regarding the material for the wooden propellers.

The engine looks great, looking forward to the sequel. 👍
6 February 2023, 21:52
bughunter
Ludvik, one additional comment: Please be aware that wood is a natural product. So even two pieces of the same kind of wood can be completely different - one perfect, the other possibly unusable for our purposes.
6 February 2023, 22:30
Villiers de Vos
Those details on the engine is coming along nicely.
7 February 2023, 05:47
Erik
❤️️ ❤️️ ❤️️
7 February 2023, 08:22
bughunter
Thank you Villiers and Erik! Your hearts are lovely!
7 February 2023, 18:49
Kyle DeHart
That engine is a delight and that wicker seat. "Chef's kiss" beautiful work!
7 February 2023, 20:46
bughunter
Thank you Kyle!
While I try to bring the fuselage together it slipped away and crashed from the bench. Only some thin struts on the front breaks and some parts, e.g. the seat jumps out, but could be glued back. Good progress the fuselage is closed now.

Wikipedia states the 1650 built aircraft "proved to be effective and dependable". At least this mid type can carry 15 spare drums! As far as I found out the normal pan with 47 cartridges has a weight of 2.2kg, the 97 cartridges drums used on air 3.6kg. That means 54kg alone for the spare drums! Usual in other two seaters were 4 spares, so that is really impressive. This was a huge bird with big wings so it can carry a heavy load, also 8 bombs.
7 February 2023, 21:56
bughunter
Another highlight of the kit is finished - the instrument panel. I'm happy with the outcome! ❤️️
8 February 2023, 18:37
Villiers de Vos
Very nice progress.
8 February 2023, 20:10
Ludvík Kružík
Well done. 👍 As with all your models.
8 February 2023, 20:37
gorby
The instrument panel is remarkably beautiful!
9 February 2023, 07:22
bughunter
Thank you very much mates! The kit provides a great details on plastic, PE and sharply printed decals for a nice result.
I'm working now on the front, which is very tricky with all the metal parts.
9 February 2023, 12:09
Vytautas
Only one word comes to mind - Wow!
11 February 2023, 14:03
Bernhard Schrock
Hammer! Schade dass man später diese Detailfülle kaum sehen kann…
11 February 2023, 14:07
Björn Svedberg
Another wonderfully detailed build! 👍
11 February 2023, 16:27
Kyle DeHart
Truly beautiful instrument cluster and cockpits. Can't wait to see more.
11 February 2023, 18:14
bughunter
Thank you very much mates! Your comments are highly appreciated!
Does anyone know a shade of Gunze for "Battleship grey"?
12 February 2023, 16:37
Ludvík Kružík
I don't know if this is it, Gunze offers this shade of grey as:
H82 - Battleship Dark Grey - Semi Gloss 10ml.
H83 - Battleship Dark Grey - Semi Gloss 10ml
12 February 2023, 19:42
bughunter
Thank you Ludvik, I made a search here in SM paints for "Battleship", but both names are Dark Grey so I could not find them. But both are too dark.

But in meantime I was able the 'decode' the Windsock Datafile description. I was confused by the color code IBI. After looking into the Camel Datafile I realized that it should be 1B1 or 1C1, which are the codes of my color ref book. And both codes shows a light grey. I will try H335 or H324.
12 February 2023, 20:02
Ludvík Kružík
Just for the record. Regarding light grey for English aircraft, Gunze offers the following shades of grey:
Hobby (H)
H332 - light aviation grey BS381C/627
H334 - barley grey BS4800/18B21
H335 - medium sea grey BS381C/637

in the Mr. Color (C) range
Same shades only labelled as C332, C334 and C335.

The final choice is of course yours. 😉
13 February 2023, 10:30
bughunter
After trying a few greys, including a pale grey from the Drooling Bulldog range, I will go for H335.
There seems to be only one picture of C.3549 which is also shown in the Datafile. The colour plate on the back cover also shows it with linen-wrapped struts painted green. I found this photo in the net and if I zoom in it confirms wooden struts as on CSM box.
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16 February 2023, 08:54
Villiers de Vos
Very nice progress.
16 February 2023, 09:30
bughunter
Hmm. Have I made a blunder? Maybe.
I decided to mask instead of the decals. To draw the masking that was a lot of work with measuring and checking! Needs hours, and cut by the plotter in 4min 20seconds.
In my stash are the beautiful RAF Red and Blue for the roundels and I found the blue on the decals to dark. With airbrush I can use MRP Insignia White which is a off white. And I hate decaling the rudder to cover the edges.
To use the decals I should have sanded the rib tapes a bit.

Conclusion: It can be done better, but fortunately I build these old struts and can claim that this is hand painted and the first step of a weathering.
16 February 2023, 16:35
Ben M
Late to the party, but I'm joining nonetheless.
16 February 2023, 16:36
bughunter
Thank you Villiers, and welcome to the show Ben!
Every time I cut brass tubes, I think of you. Has it worked for you in the meantime?
16 February 2023, 16:42
Ben M
I haven't cut brass tubes in a while, but I need to make a pitot for my XF-92A, so I will get another chance soon. However I'm currently distracted with my Chinese Spy Balloon 🙂
16 February 2023, 16:50
Kyle DeHart
Coming along so beautifully.
16 February 2023, 18:00
bughunter
Kyle, I hope so! I need to think about the way to continue with all the painted parts.
17 February 2023, 08:21
bughunter
The issue of the very fragile tail skid is fixed and the engine compartment is prepared for adding the engine and the first panels soon.
18 February 2023, 09:02
Ludvík Kružík
The spur looks great! The combination of metal and wood is awesome. 👍
18 February 2023, 20:43
bughunter
Thanlks Ludvik! Since a broken landing gear on a Nieuport during a transport I have a little trauma and build landing gears and tail skids as robust as possible.
Spend hours with precise positioning of the metal front panels and mounted the engine.

Many greetings also to the anonymous followers who (as I learned today) check daily for new progress and pictures! 😉
18 February 2023, 22:48
Christian Bruer
There are no limits in the details you add to your wonderful models. Each of your WIP is more mind blowing.
Thx for sharing and hope to see you in Lingen next month 🙂
19 February 2023, 10:45
Pietro De Angelis
Wonderful details! Congratulations
19 February 2023, 14:46
bughunter
Thank you very much for such nice comments! Kudos go to CSM as the provides most of the wonderful details in this fantastic kit 👍
But sorry Christian - I will not be in Lingen this year.
19 February 2023, 19:03
bughunter
At the moment I'm in experimental state as I do not trust 4 small pins. Ok, that is the limit of producing such kits in injection moulding. It may be enough to build the model and put it in the showcase - and not touch it again.
But I want to be able to transport my models to exhibitions in a safe way! Picture 122:Which connection would you trust more?
19 February 2023, 19:23
gorby
Fantastic progress Frank.
I'd be more inclined to trust the metal leg.
20 February 2023, 08:37
bughunter
Thx gorby! Yes, I will go the metal way.
20 February 2023, 15:27
bughunter
The undercarriage is done and sits in place, windshield and more on top too.
21 February 2023, 20:32
Chris Derksen
I keep going back to your original comment about an out of box build.... and chuckling
21 February 2023, 20:44
Christoph Kunz
"Light goes through."
I know it's not the first time you did this, but still your AMS in perfection giving my always those WOW-moments.
OOB? Oh my...
21 February 2023, 22:32
Hanno Kleinecke
Holy sh*t, you are exceeding yourself once more here, I'm running out of superlatives…..
22 February 2023, 16:36
bughunter
What a great feedback - Thank you very much mates!
That is one of the best kits I have built so far 👍 The kit provides more then 90% of the details. I fully understand the economical reason, that CSM do not add a clear sprue for one single part. My other replacements affects robustness, as I need a robust model for exhibitions. As I wrote for home use the kit is good enough.
The filigree biplanes push injection moulding technology to its limits if it is to be true to the original. The Halberstadt from Mirage was extreme in this matter: less than 0.3mm plastic mounting pins for heavy parts simply do not work.

Pic 141/142: the radiators are oob. One could use 55 0.3mm copper wires on each side, but to drill all this plates (55 holes within 4x2mm) is a heavy task.
I think I have an idea ...

By the way, today in daylight: What's that glittering on the floor far away from the bench? That was the missing windscreen!
22 February 2023, 19:33
Erik
Krass! Ich habe den Eindruck, Du hast Dich sogar nochmal einen Tick gesteigert.
22 February 2023, 19:34
Ludvík Kružík
I'm also running out of superlatives... at least like this 👍 👍 👍
22 February 2023, 19:55
Christoph Kunz
Wait, your carpetmonster gives back what it occupied???

22 February 2023, 20:05
bughunter
Thanks mates!
@Erik, schön daß es den Eindruck hat! Man gibt sich ja Mühe und versucht mit jedem Modell dazuzulernen.
@Christoph The trick is no carpet - parquet flooring. It's too smooth for the monster and it slips on it. 😉
22 February 2023, 20:53
bughunter
After adding an emergency control for the gunner it was converted to a biplane. I like the look with the real wood struts 👍
It looks like good progress but it is far from finish. A huge amount of rigging lines as it is a two bay biplane and other details needs to be added.
23 February 2023, 19:34
Ludvík Kružík
It already looks great.
23 February 2023, 22:07
Ethan Flory
Looks amazing such precise work!!
23 February 2023, 23:59
bughunter
Thank you mates!
The idea was to finish it this month, but I'm not sure if this is possible. At the moment I put a package of Gaspatch RAF wire terminals on EZl-Line as preparation for the rigging.
24 February 2023, 16:21
Kyle DeHart
Such incredible work
25 February 2023, 00:02
John
I'm continually amazed at your work, not only the level of detail, especially in such tiny proportions, but also the subtlety of making the plastic surface look like doped/painted fabric!
25 February 2023, 00:53
bughunter
Thank you mates!
John, this started by accident! I have two nice PC10 shades of MRP, but a) I used them often on my other planes and b) the paints are not very robust and can be scratched easily. I had also a PC10 of "Drooling Bulldog" which I never used yet (but I like those paints in general). But this PC10 comes out very very dark. As this was too dark in my eyes so I used other green paints on top, then with artist translucent white oil paint, and with a mask some weathering with Gunze Clear Smoke. So as often more thin layers of paints make it more interesting.
In meantime more then half of the rigging is done 🙂
26 February 2023, 11:47
Ludvík Kružík
Another gem from your workshop is born here. 👍
27 February 2023, 17:56
bughunter
After the finished wing rigging I added more details like the Rotherham air pump, exhaust and more.
Good progress, but there are a still a bigger amount of ToDo's like all the control wires, hot water tank and radiators, more rigging, armament, wheels ....
27 February 2023, 18:00
Meister
Ich glaube ich gebe dir all meine Modelle und du baust sie für mich 😄. Unglaublich und wunderschön.
27 February 2023, 22:27
bughunter
Thx!
I'm afraid I'll have to decline your offer. I would need the seven lives of a cat to convert my own stash into these scaled-down
originals.
28 February 2023, 06:40
Juergen Klinglhuber
sagenhaft .....echt toll zu zuschauen 👍
28 February 2023, 07:23
Gary Kitchen
Fabulous detail. That engine is a work of art. I had to go back and reread the comment about the top cover as misread it as saying now I'm covering all this up. 😄
28 February 2023, 07:29
bughunter
Thank you very much mates! Your comments are highly appreciated.
@Juergen You will have a chance to see it live in Ried later this year.
@Gary The picture 174 is made especially for you 😉 But as you see the panel is not painted so I will not add it.
28 February 2023, 19:18
bughunter
The project is not yet finished but there is good news and bad news:

The good news is that the big thing fits into my wall display cabinet in real life. Up to now I had only checked this theoretically, but today I also checked it practically.

The bad news is that you can see almost nothing of the pilot's seat and nothing at all of the fabric belts, no matter how you contort yourself. I could have saved myself the work!
1 March 2023, 20:25
James C
Just as well you have thoroughly documented the build showing all that fantastic detail work that you have done so far 👍
1 March 2023, 21:59
bughunter
Thank you very much James! I try to document the build in detail, but sometime I forgot to take pictures.
2 March 2023, 06:39
Villiers de Vos
Fantastic work.
2 March 2023, 07:22
bughunter
Thanks Villiers! Glad that you like it.
I guess later the day I will have more pics ...
2 March 2023, 15:26
Ludvík Kružík
I agree with Villiers. 👍
2 March 2023, 15:30
bughunter
Thanks Ludvík!
A big step forward - all rigging and control wires are inserted 👍 As I estimated the threaded terminals were not enough. All panels are applied and radiators are mounted with the tank.
I need to mention that I hate CA sometimes!
There are still some tasks on the ToDo list but there is a light at the end of the tunnel - or is this an oncoming train?
2 March 2023, 20:01
Kyle DeHart
No doubt the light at the end of my tunnel is an oncoming train!! 😂 Yours, however is certainly just the end of the tunnel. This is just magnificent and has been a joy to follow along with, as usual.
2 March 2023, 20:14
Marius
Masterpiece of a model once more. My respect for such work and dedication!
2 March 2023, 20:29
Ludvík Kružík
It looks like we are approaching the final round, at the end of which your collection will be enriched by another great model.

There are days when I hate CA glue too. It almost instantly glues anything you don't want to glue, including my fingers... but the part I need to glue doesn't want to stick for mysterious reasons.
2 March 2023, 22:31
Pietro De Angelis
Simply stunning!
Compliments in this case are not enough!
2 March 2023, 23:27
bughunter
Such nice comments - Thank you very much mates!
Then I hope I don't lose focus in the last mile as we tend to think about the next project. And of course, that no devil comes around the corner for a mishap!
3 March 2023, 18:01
bughunter
This build log comes to an end as the last details are done. That was a spectacular kit made by CSM! After metallising the bracing and a bit of weathering, I will take the final exterior shots, weather permitting.

Many thanks for accompanying me through the project and for the comments respectively likes 👍
6 March 2023, 22:53
Kyle DeHart
Beautiful as always my friend.
6 March 2023, 23:36
Robert Podkoński
I must confess I cannot find adequate words to praise your work - the model looks so realistic and the level of detail is just unbelievable... Chapeau bas!
7 March 2023, 06:43
bughunter
Thank you Kyle and Robert!
With a little bit more weathering this ugly huge bird start to looks even better 🙂
And the weather today is better then expected 👍 Lets see ....
7 March 2023, 09:58
bughunter
Don't miss the chance to view the album of the finished model here:
Armstrong-Whitworth F.K.8 C.3549 | Album by bughunter (1:48)
7 March 2023, 19:33
Ludvík Kružík
Robert said it perfectly and I have no choice but to join in his praise.
7 March 2023, 21:52
Alexander Grivonev
Mate, you are a magician..
7 March 2023, 22:28
bughunter
Thank you Alexander, I think that's meant nicely. But a magician cheats his audience, like the Unehrlich brothers, for example.
I would never do that with you - what I show here is all real! 🙂
8 March 2023, 08:39
Alexander Grivonev
You have to overanalyze everything don't you XD
8 March 2023, 09:48
Alec K
He would not be much of a bughunter if he didn't… 😄
9 March 2023, 00:10
bughunter
❤️️
9 March 2023, 06:31
Spanjaard
joining the party late, but what a show 🙂
9 March 2023, 19:26
bughunter
Welcome! But yes, the show is over.
But you are right: The final pictures are nice, but to see all the details and the effort behind one should look into the build log album.
9 March 2023, 19:50

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That is a great kit, so another try to build out-of-the-box. Plus wooden airscrew of course.

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1:48 Armstrong-Whitworth F.K.8 (Copper State Models CSM 1030 Premium)1:48 SE.5a Seatbelts (HGW Models 148553)6+
Armstrong Whitworth FK.8
GB Royal Flying Corps (1912-1918)
No. 35 Sqn. RFC C.3549
December 1917 World War 1
 

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