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Work in progress - Fokker D.V

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41 25 October 2020, 17:23
bughunter
Started a new project to get the mojo back. It works😉
Selected this one to try out the Fokker streaking. Was done in real with a 8cm wide brush.
25 October 2020, 18:09
Christoph Kunz
Oh, oh, all chairs still free... I'll take one.
25 October 2020, 19:03
Björn Svedberg
I'm in! 🙂 My stash of WWI planes are growing and I'm really tempted to start to build one, and your work is really inspiring! 👍
25 October 2020, 21:05
Daniel Klink
Ah the next filigrane piece in progress.. Following and as always amazing so far👍
25 October 2020, 21:10
René "Lord Bilbo" Bartholemy
Is there any chair left for me? Wouldn't want to miss this!
25 October 2020, 21:15
bughunter
A warm welcome to all of you!
Oh Björn, you got infected with the biplane wire entanglements virus? 👍 Very hard to get rid of😉 I guess you will stick to 1:48? I noticed some trend back to 48 after WNW dies. This will be interesting, your quality work applied to this category!
25 October 2020, 21:58
bughunter
This Fokker needs an Oberursel U.I with 100 hp. Luckily this type of rotary engine is available from Small Stuff and I had it in my stash. The whole action from pic 10 to 15 included painting, mounting and weathering with oil paint took 2 hours 40 minutes. This was not my first engine made by Small Stuff😉
27 October 2020, 18:55
David Taylor
taking a seat.
27 October 2020, 20:30
Greg Baker
Shoving my way to the front...
27 October 2020, 20:50
bughunter
You are welcome mates! And Greg is back 👍
27 October 2020, 21:48
Alec K
Me too! Me too!
28 October 2020, 01:12
Marcel Klemmer
I will take a seat as well....
28 October 2020, 16:13
bughunter
Welcome mates and I hope you are entertained well. Greetings also to the mates that press the Like-button!
29 October 2020, 17:02
Gordon Sørensen
Great detail work on the engine, Bug!
29 October 2020, 17:37
bughunter
Thx Gordon! A small update - a solution for clean mounting of a (moving) tail plane.
1 November 2020, 18:11
Daniel Klink
Hammer lötarbeit Frank...Wow!!
13 November 2020, 22:11
bughunter
After a stroke of fate (hopefully the year 2020 will be over soon!) I tried to distract myself a little by continuing to build on the Fokker.

As usual for that time there were different air screw types mounted to the Fokker D.V
Some are very comparable to types I created already but some pictures shows a Garuda. Due to the wide blades those are looking interesting and since there is no air screw shown on my Fokker on the two known crash pictures I will go with that.
As additional references I used the "Fokker Eindecker Compendium 1" (great book!) and the book "German Propeller Makers of WWI: Part One", which includes Garuda. The shape is really complicated so my first try failed. This is the second one.
Not my best to date, but I will use it. The shape of the Garuda is really difficult to replicate!
13 November 2020, 22:12
bughunter
Thx Daniel! Haven't noticed your post done during my update😉
14 November 2020, 07:36
Greg Baker
"Not my best" he says... I strive to such imperfections.😉

Hopefully the distractions are working. I suspect many of us need them.
14 November 2020, 08:00
bughunter
Thx Greg 👍
14 November 2020, 18:14
bughunter
Of course there is a seat in the kit, but if I look on the reference pictures, there is a big difference. The seat looks very special for a specific reason.
The rotary with 100 h.p. was not very powerful for its time, so the Fokker designers tried all to save weight. The fuselage structure looks very fragile and so also the seat.

It is may be a bit too much work for a detail mostly hidden later, but I wanted to try also the Connecto crosses by Albion Alloy and want to use the seat as prototype for a bigger project. Some always try to convince me to do a scratch project and at least I have an idea now.😉
14 November 2020, 21:15
René "Lord Bilbo" Bartholemy
So, what do think of the connecto system? Is it worth it! 👍
14 November 2020, 21:22
Alec K
Seat looks great 👍. Also interested in your take on the connecto.
15 November 2020, 13:54
bughunter
Thank you mates! The crosses are a nice add-on to our scratch materials. I only ordered the wrong size, because the description on the online shop was wrong (informed them, this is corrected now). So I used here one size smaller, but with soldering it works too.
15 November 2020, 15:20
gorby
Excellent! Another Bughunter gem to marvel at. 🙂
15 November 2020, 15:55
bughunter
gorbygould, welcome to the show!
Today I took a closer look at the photos while having a coffee, among other things a large-sized picture of the front. I noticed the suspension in detail. The people at Fokker welded small cross tubes on the axle and small limiting plates on the sides to prevent the rubbers from slipping. How should I mount it durable? 🤔 It falls apart again when I solder it! 😭
Actually I wanted to continue building the cockpit to be able to close the fuselage. But I really wanted to see if the idea works and I could get the axle done with brazing. I love this feeling of happiness when it works! 😛
15 November 2020, 16:25
bughunter
To be able to close the fuselage I continued to work on the cockpit parts.
21 November 2020, 16:40
Greg Baker
Oh. Wow.
21 November 2020, 18:32
Bernhard Schrock
Moin Bughunter. Mal wieder ein grooooosses Kino. Du hast geschrieben, dass du Piano wire (das gleiche wie Gitarrensaite? Aus Edelstahl?) hart gelötet hast. Ich habe immer gelernt/gedacht, dass man Edelstahl nicht löten kann. Habe ich mit meinen Gitarrensaiten mit Lötkolben probiert und nie geschafft. Wo steckt Dein Geheimnis?
21 November 2020, 18:39
bughunter
Thx Greg!
Bernhard, das sind keine Gitarrensaiten. Ich habe das in den AJP Bausätzen kennengelernt, stand in der Anleitung "Piano wire", also Klaviersaiten. Sehen aus wie Eisen und lassen sich problemlos weich! löten. Super Material, wenn Messing zu weich ist. Bei der AJP Demoiselle waren die 3 langen Rumpf-"Bambus"-Stangen daraus. Habe die dann in ebay uk gefunden und mir ein paar Stücke 0,8 1,0 1,2 1,5mm etc bestellt. Die Achsen der Umlaufmotoren mache ich jetzt oft daraus, die Begrenzungsstücke weich gelötet. Weiß nicht, ob das Material rosten kann😉
Bei der Achse habe ich die Messingstückchen nur hart auf die Achse gelötet, damit ich die weiteren Teile weich anlöten kann, ohne daß alles wieder auseinanderfällt.
21 November 2020, 19:01
René "Lord Bilbo" Bartholemy
Och Gottchen...
Löten hat also etwas mit Eiern zu tun? Hart und weich...😉
22 November 2020, 12:05
bughunter
Das Hartlöten passiert mit Lot, daß bei 610°C schmilzt. Willst Du das festhalten, "brauchst Du Eier in der Hose"😉
22 November 2020, 16:41
René "Lord Bilbo" Bartholemy
Kann ich glauben... 🙂
22 November 2020, 20:50
Spanjaard
as usual, trying to get my jaw back in place after is dropped totally.... amazing detail bughunter. simply stunning. as usual 🙂
22 November 2020, 21:19
Greg Baker
I think we should have "relative feedback/praise".... maybe I'll make it a request for Tim. So, for example, when I'm able to glue two pieces of plastic together without leaving a sticky fingerprint, the crowd should go wild with praise, but we'll reserve our applause for Bugsy until he does something truly monumental... but not for his run of the mill genius.😉
23 November 2020, 00:32
René "Lord Bilbo" Bartholemy
@bughunter : Und womit lötest du so heiß? Mein Welleman Lötkolben geht bis höchstens 450°C...
Nur zur Info, erst muss ich lernen weich zu löten. Oder eher "überhaupt zu löten", so *einfach* finde ich das nämlich nicht.😉
23 November 2020, 09:09
bughunter
Oh Greg is in top form again!😉
Bilbo, niemand hat behauptet, daß Löten einfach sei, das erfordert Übung! Eine Frage des Timigs usw. Habe über 40 Jahre Löterfahrung und bin darin "gedrilled" worden😉
Hartlöten ist ganz was anderes, das geht nur speziellem Lot mit Flußmittel und einem Brenner. Gibt einen von Proxxon, die Flamme geht bis 1300°C. Dazu braucht es einen Schamottstein oder ähnliches als feuerfeste Unterlage. Braucht man aber normalerweise nicht für unsere Modelle😉
23 November 2020, 18:02
bughunter
My first idea was to prime the fuselage - but stop, some preparation needs to be done before!
A good preparation works makes the later steps much easier.
28 November 2020, 22:00
Alec K
Wise words 👍 🙂
29 November 2020, 12:08
Daniel Klink
Goiles Spandau Frank wow!!! Brünierung top 👍
4 December 2020, 18:43
bughunter
That was a bigger batch in this project, see pics 88-95 😉
Albatros Dr.I | Album by bughunter (1:48)

Now I continued with the fuselage and tried again the famous Fokker streaking.
4 December 2020, 18:48
Daniel Klink
Looking promising the streaks on the fabric tan 👍
[img1]
 
4 December 2020, 18:52
bughunter
That is the back side of my Windsock Datafile reference, in front of me during streaking😉
4 December 2020, 19:19
Christoph Kunz
Der Sp orn, Du meine Güte, wie herlich!
Mußte hier Leerzeichen einfügen, hat wohl was mit Erwachsenenfilmchen zu tun😉
4 December 2020, 20:02
Marcel Klemmer
Unglaublich wie immer von Dir....
4 December 2020, 20:03
bughunter
Thank you mates! After the pictures I realized, that more paint needs to be removed, with finer structure. With oils you have a loooong time to fix it 👍
4 December 2020, 22:53
bughunter
The streaks are finalized. During the hardening I started to work on the cowling.
5 December 2020, 18:49
Hans-Jürgen Haag
Ich sehe schon das ist nicht deine erster Tanz mit der Drehmaschine! Erstklassige Arbeit!
6 December 2020, 16:04
bughunter
An der Drehbank bin ich wirklich noch Anfänger, habe aber schon einmal eine Cowling für meine Nieport 17 "Flyboys" gedreht. Ich brauche dafür nur eine kleine Ewigkeit, da ich vorsichtig geworden bin. Nicht so leicht ist es, den innen den Bogen auszudrehen, wenn man nicht aufpasst hat mal schnell zwei Ringe statt einer Motorhaube!
Die Small Stuff Motoren sind "in Scale", daher dann die Bausatzhauben mit dem dicken Plastik zu eng. Manchmal genügt ein ausdünnen, aber es kommt vor, daß das nicht genügt.
6 December 2020, 17:28
Christian Bruer
Always a joy to follow your most interesting and accurate WIPs and to look at your amazing skills working with different materials.
Happy Modelling Christian
6 December 2020, 17:57
Alec K
Nice job on that cowling. That's not easy to do, you are definitely past newbie 👍😉
6 December 2020, 18:13
Erik
Genius at work.😉 Great work!
6 December 2020, 18:46
bughunter
Thank you mates 👍 I love this real multimedia (not TV and Co😉 ) work.
6 December 2020, 21:56
Spanjaard
👍
6 December 2020, 23:06
bughunter
More masking, painted Alclad and dark green and added decals.
9 December 2020, 18:14
bughunter
The struts of the kit are 26mm long, which is exact the distance between lower and upper wing. Since the struts are also at an angle, they are likely to be too short.
The "wood" on the kit struts is the same length as the struts, this seems to be a tribute to technology as in real life the wood is much shorter. Looks interesting, but would make the plastic struts unstable. In short, there are a few reasons to try it myself.
11 December 2020, 21:26
Spanjaard
and yours will look a lot better😉
11 December 2020, 21:51
bughunter
Thank you Spanjaard!
12 December 2020, 16:29
bughunter
At least it is a biplane now, but I accidentally destroyed the landing gear.
13 December 2020, 16:55
Marcel Klemmer
Damned! Can you save/repair it?
13 December 2020, 17:57
Christoph Kunz
I feel with you 🙁
But if anyone can repair this... 🙂
13 December 2020, 18:59
bughunter
No, I will make a new one, with wood, paper and metal of course😉
13 December 2020, 19:08
Skyhiker
You have really done a beautiful job painting the plane. Is the green just oil paint put on with a brush and removed a bit to show the under painting?
13 December 2020, 19:45
Daniel Klink
The paintjob is awesome Frank()
Sorry for the gear collapsed, but you will fix this easily
13 December 2020, 20:01
bughunter
Thank you mates! Skywalker, I tried to simulate what was done in the Fokker factory. Underneath is linen (flat paint helps). On top they used a 8cm wide brush, put in green paint and paint in stripes with less and less paint. Then reload the brush and continue. That would mean in 1/48 a 1,7mm wide stripes. I found a very small flat brush and tried to simulate it, but it is not that easy. See pic71/72. I tried to brush the stripes with thinner finer and removed the paint further, until 73/74. Every aircraft looks different, so checking original pictures is helpful. Here the fields around the crosses were white before, so it was overpainted heavily and left only a small white border around the cross. Other D.V had much less paint.
See also the real Fokker Dr.I of Mikael Carlson: [img1]
There is a bug in ordering the pictures, I have to sort them again.
 
13 December 2020, 20:40
David Taylor
Looking good,unlucky with the undercart.
14 December 2020, 16:03
bughunter
Thank you mates!
Today I had an idea and must check it immediately ... It worked 👍
14 December 2020, 21:44
Greg Baker
Geez... just like that. Have an idea and it works... must be nice.😉
15 December 2020, 06:51
Marcel Klemmer
What incredible solution. There you did extremely magic things again....
15 December 2020, 07:26
Christoph Kunz
Pic 110 "looks nice" is complete understatement
15 December 2020, 08:38
bughunter
Crash! Today I nearly lost the model!
Shortly after the last picture of the model (I have moved the lamps for better picture light before) the heavy head of a lamp (with two light tube and a huge magnifying glass between them) crashes down to the bench only 10cm right of the model!
Need to fix the lamp to be able to work in this dark late afternoons.
15 December 2020, 21:48
René "Lord Bilbo" Bartholemy
Pic 114: knowing you, you'll be able to make exact copies of the parts to repair the lamp... In wood! Just for the fun of it!😉
15 December 2020, 21:50
bughunter
Wood would not hold the lamp head. I just checked: 1.9kg! May be brass?
15 December 2020, 22:00
René "Lord Bilbo" Bartholemy
Sure! Replicate two moulded zamac pieces in brass. Especially the circular serrations should be very fun to replicate.😉
16 December 2020, 08:04
Tim van Dooremalen
Had the exact same issue with that lamp as well. Only had it for a couple of weeks. Bought it from Domino (in Belgium) and after explaining the problem they send me new parts to fix the lamp. I think they said it is a know problem with this lamp...
16 December 2020, 08:17
Spanjaard
is it the Maul lamp?
16 December 2020, 08:50
Erik
Glück gehabt! Oo
16 December 2020, 10:23
Bernhard Schrock
Oh man, was für ein Glück! Den Hersteller der Lampe verklagen?🙂
16 December 2020, 10:34
bughunter
Yes, I have two Maul (bought 2012) on my bench. After 8 years it will be hard to argue against it.
Let's see if I can fix it myself.
16 December 2020, 13:19
Alec K
You lucked out, if one can call it that, with that lamp failure. Good luck with the repairs 👍
16 December 2020, 14:39
Francky
Same lamp, same supplier, same problem.... I repaired it with a piece of aluminium. 4cm by 2cm by 1 cm

I can send you a few photo's if you like
16 December 2020, 14:52
bughunter
Francky, that would be nice, sounds like a good idea 👍
16 December 2020, 15:18
Francky
I added an album called "Bits and pieces", I assume you can see it?
16 December 2020, 16:06
Spanjaard
Nice trick, Francky, I will keep your album for future reference
16 December 2020, 16:21
bughunter
Thank you, commented there already.
16 December 2020, 16:34
bughunter
Possibly I am a little crazy since I decided to fix a problem. The model is far from perfect. But since I noticed that the distance between upper wing and fuselage is to big I will always see that mistake if I look later into my glass cabinet. This is a typical property of this aircraft so I had to fix it.
Most of the rigging is also done.
18 December 2020, 17:40
David Taylor
Still looks brill to me.
18 December 2020, 17:52
Daniel Klink
Really great Frank, and luckily you were able to restore the gearwork
18 December 2020, 18:46
bughunter
Thank you David and Daniel!
Daniel, at the rigging I passed you on the right?😉
18 December 2020, 20:59
Daniel Klink
Becaus you on't have to drill yours to ropes 🙂
But i think copperwire is no good idea. Glueing copper is not easy..
18 December 2020, 21:49
bughunter
If I don't need functional rigging I use a "rubber" thread, I assume the normal one. I think there are also fine and super fine for 1/72.
18 December 2020, 22:51
Alec K
Looking magnificent 👍
19 December 2020, 13:35
bughunter
Thank you Alec! This bird is mostly finished. Two PE parts with aileron control wires and weathering needs to be added. Lovely "Little Jewel Fokker" (title of an Windsock article)!
20 December 2020, 17:46
David Taylor
Nice crimbo present to us bughunter.
20 December 2020, 18:35
bughunter
Thanks David! I guess as present it comes some days to early😉
21 December 2020, 14:26
bughunter
So again a model is finished! I really like the outcome, mainly due to the Fokker streaking and the scratched parts.
More soon in a new album.

Thank you very much for watching and your comments!
21 December 2020, 16:24
Spanjaard
excellent as usual
please more details about the fix of the lamp😉 i may really need that one day....
21 December 2020, 17:01
bughunter
This bird is finished! Please do not forget to view the final album: Fokker D.V | Album by bughunter (1:48)
@Spanjaard Sorry, I don't have pictures. I had no thick alu, but a thinner plate (I don't know which alloy). I glued the broken pieces with CA and "copied" them. For the long hole (the pin of the lamp) I squeezed both parts together with a thin layer of wood in the middle and drilled the hole. I do not know, how long it will hold the lamp 😉
21 December 2020, 18:35
Daniel Klink
absolute convincing work there Frank.
The underside of the engine cover just wow!!!
21 December 2020, 18:45
Spanjaard
thanks for the info bughunter
21 December 2020, 21:22
bughunter
Grrrr! Today (two years after the first one) the other lamp crashed down with the identical problem! 😠 (see pictures 114 and 138 and the posting above).
Be really warned if you use these "MAUL" lamps, as Spanjaard warned too (see above).
Will fix it myself next year ....
21 December 2022, 20:25

Project info

162 images
1:48
Completed
1:48 Fokker D.V (Special Hobby SH48118)1:48 Gnome 9 Delta / Oberursel U.I (100 hp) Engine (Small Stuff 48104)4+
Fokker D.V
DR Marinefliegerkorps (Imperial German Navy Air Service 1912-1918)
2682/16
1917 World War 1
 

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