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Mini GB: Heinkel He 177 A-3

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54 | 29. August 2020, 09:09
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Treehugger
How are the clear parts, are you happy with them, and are the panel lines ok you think? I've been wondering about getting this kit, but perhaps a little too large for me.
29. August 2020, 09:45
BAT21
Clear parts are very bad - need some aftermarket replacement. The rest looks ok.
29. August 2020, 11:47
Treehugger
How are they bad? Just curious.
I've invested in a few vacuum canopies for this or that kit but so far haven't plunged into it and tried to work with vacuum canopies yet.
29. August 2020, 13:09
BAT21
The clear parts are very thick and not realy clear. One part is milky and it looks like a fingerprint casted in.
29. August 2020, 13:49
Alec K
Following 👍
29. August 2020, 23:58
Daniel Klink
ah the Beast is growing 👍
11. September 2020, 14:06
BAT21
slowly but steadily😉
11. September 2020, 15:36
David Taylor
Do you think it is any better than the Airfix kit.I made this kit when I was a teenager{distant memories}.
11. September 2020, 15:36
12. September 2020, 09:27
Soeren .
@David It is far superior over the really old Airfix kit
12. September 2020, 09:29
Rui S
Nice PE work 👍 I'm in for the ride😉
12. September 2020, 13:38
Łukasz Gliński
Ah, the other half of the GB, good 👍
16. September 2020, 19:07
Rui S
I have the old airfix kit, (already started ages ago), so I'm looking forward to see how you finish this😎
Your Cockpit and interior came out excellent 👍
16. September 2020, 20:17
Alec K
Looking awesome 👍
18. September 2020, 22:18
BAT21
Thanks guys.
19. September 2020, 10:25
Guillaume Blanchet
Neet interior. Looking good
19. September 2020, 11:05
OttovonLindberg
Beautiful! what paint scheme are you going for?
21. September 2020, 17:58
BAT21
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Maybe it will be "Susi" from KG 100?
21. September 2020, 18:21
Sergej I
Taking a seat. PE job is amazing, can't believe its only 1:72...
21. September 2020, 19:15
Daniel Klink
Susi would be very attractive indeed.
23. September 2020, 18:13
Roland Gunslinger
Looking great so far 👍
23. September 2020, 18:15
Dave Flitton
Awesome start!
23. September 2020, 18:44
24. September 2020, 08:08
Steve Gundlach
Awesome - Did one 40+yrs ago but nothing like this.
Your making me give it another go
24. September 2020, 10:32
BAT21
Many thanks - It's good that you are following this Mini GB 👍
25. September 2020, 16:03
Alec K
Wondering if you are doing other modifications besides the ailerons to backdate the A-5 to A-3?
27. September 2020, 23:44
BAT21
No, had no further modifications planned. Are they necessary?
28. September 2020, 16:16
Cuajete
Very nice details 👍.
28. September 2020, 17:53
Alec K
I am not really sure, was just wondering what you came up with. I had the He 177 build on my radar for quite some time and this miniGB has whetted my appetite😉

I started to look into whether I can build the A-5 with the black undersides. The AirDoc title has a nice "black" profile of 6N+HP of 6./KG 100 with a corresponding photo on page 33. That the 6N+HP was an A-5 is corroborated by both the Warpaint #33 title (page 18) and Classic He 177 (page 201) titles (see my He 177 project for more info on these books).

In the process of verifying this, I am trying to understand how the A-5 version differed from the A-3. Thus far I was unable to find any scale drawings that would authoritatively help identify the differences. The https://military.wikireading.ru/14353 source has profile drawings of the said versions, but no wing detail. On page 181 of the Classic He 177 title is the following description of the A-5 version:

Designed primarily to carry external loads, such as the LT 50 torpedo and the Fritz-X and Hs 293 missiles. Based on the A-3 but with a further strengthened wing, shortened undercarriage oleo legs, cable instead of servo controls, and armour plate on the underside of nose removed and replaced by Plexiglas to improve forward visibility. The Fowler flaps along the outboard wing sections were also removed.

Based on that, I would say that modifying the A-5 into A-3 would involve the following:
1. Removal of any fuselage/wing mountings for the LT 50 torpedo, Fritz-X, or Hs 293 if present.
2. Strengthened wing (thus far I was unable to find whether this affect the wing appearance in any way).
3. Modifying the undercarriage (thus far I was unable to find any details how exactly the two differed).
4. Simulate armour plate on the underside of nose (I would guess that painting the clear part will do just that)
5. Remove Fowler flaps along the outboard wing sections (presumably the ailerons from AIMS accomplish just that).
6. Strengthened wing (thus far I was unable to find whether this affect the wing appearance in any way).

All this said, I must admit that my cursory study of the photographs left me more confused that wise. For example: many photos tagged as A-5 version show the bottom section of the nose armored (or were they just overpainted?). The 6N+HN tagged as A-5 in the AirDoc title (page 32) shows the AIMS-style ailerons (were these not on the A-3 only?). And on and on.

My apologies if I am going too deep into this, but I tend to get little over-interested in the accuracy when I should be building 😄 Certainly no matter what you do, the model will surely be magnificent 👍. Cheers.
29. September 2020, 15:34
Daniel Klink
Great Alec and yes there is much confusion around the 177
I recently found out that the A6/R1 Testmachines weren't former A5 but late A3's instead.
So my Build is a total What if...
29. September 2020, 17:59
Alec K
Yes, it looks like the late A-3s and A-5s were very similar. I just started to read the Classic book so hopefully there is some more detail about this.
29. September 2020, 19:43
Clifford Keesler
Nice project also.
30. September 2020, 00:52
Guy Rump
Looking really good so far, I like your PE additions. 🙂
10. October 2020, 16:22
David Taylor
looking good
27. October 2020, 16:31
Jakub Fiala
Nice start, following
27. October 2020, 17:10
Clifford Keesler
Looking good.
28. October 2020, 00:54
OttovonLindberg
I have two of those Revell A-5 kits, am looking forward to how you address the canopy problems
28. October 2020, 01:10
BAT21
Will try Plan B - combining middle part from Revell with front part from Squadron... fingers crossed!
28. October 2020, 09:04
Daniel Klink
Good luck mate👍
28. October 2020, 09:31
Alec K
Yes, good luck. Challenging problem.
28. October 2020, 18:51
playtime 222
Hope you do a better job than the real one did welding 2 engines together 😄
18. November 2020, 11:22
David Taylor
I see you have sorted out the canopy.
24. November 2020, 18:09
Matthew A
Did the A-5 add the toilet in the nav's seat or was it already in the A-3
25. November 2020, 16:50
Cuajete
Good progress!
25. November 2020, 19:15
Clifford Keesler
Looking very nice.
26. November 2020, 01:06
BAT21
Thanks mates, but still a long way to go...
27. November 2020, 15:14
Es-haq Khosravi
Looks very challenging! Good luck!
27. November 2020, 15:23
Spanjaard
looking good. good luck with those fit issues
27. November 2020, 15:28
BAT21
Time for fun with colours.😉
2. December 2020, 16:27
Jakub Fiala
great job with an airbrush gun!
2. December 2020, 18:13
Cuajete
Looking so good.
2. December 2020, 19:08
BAT21
Thank you for the positive feedback 👍
2. December 2020, 20:56
Łukasz Gliński
Great mottling 👍
2. December 2020, 21:02
Clifford Keesler
It's going to be a stunner.
3. December 2020, 00:24
Alec K
Looks really great. May I ask what Brengun set did the crew door came from?
3. December 2020, 12:50
David Taylor
Two superb Greif builds,does not get better.
3. December 2020, 17:54
Guillaume Blanchet
Nice color choice. I really like it!
4. December 2020, 00:37
Alec K
Thanks!
4. December 2020, 01:10
BAT21
Weathering done - time for the final assembly?
7. December 2020, 13:32
Daniel Klink
perfect 👍
7. December 2020, 13:57
Spanjaard
impressive, looking forward final reveal 🙂
7. December 2020, 13:57
Clifford Keesler
Agree with Spanjaard.
7. December 2020, 16:06
BAT21
Thx mates 👍
7. December 2020, 19:37
David Taylor
Shame you cannot put full markings on him,looks brilliant.
7. December 2020, 21:50
Gary Victory
Great work. Well done. looking forward to the finished article.
8. December 2020, 08:57
Alec K
I really like your paint work. Very inspirational 👍
9. December 2020, 11:44
Cuajete
Very nice painting job and weathering.
9. December 2020, 21:40
BAT21
Many thanks... only a few parts need to be glued in place - then we have a finished Heinkel.
11. December 2020, 08:43
BAT21
Finally the model is finished. Thanks for watching!
12. December 2020, 10:46
Matthew A
Thumbs up
12. December 2020, 11:50
Alec K
Very nice, and great pictures 👍
12. December 2020, 12:43
OttovonLindberg
Great work! I love the camo
12. December 2020, 13:24
Chris Church
Inspirational and very well done.
12. December 2020, 14:40
Łukasz Gliński
Lovely finish and dat hangar...😉
12. December 2020, 16:39
David Taylor
Looks fantastic.
12. December 2020, 17:20
12. December 2020, 18:33
Cuajete
Fantastic job and very nice decoration. Congrats!

Is this decoration only available on the AIMS decals?
12. December 2020, 19:01
BAT21
Thanks mates.

As far as i know are the AIMS decals the only available decals with this marking at this moment.
12. December 2020, 20:31
Guy Rump
Great job! 🙂
12. December 2020, 20:59
Daniel Klink
Brilliant result and Wonderful presentation, Jens 👍
I'll have to admit yours looking much more spectacular than mine respect mate.
You nearly can't do it any better with this kit.
12. December 2020, 21:05
Spanjaard
amazing job indeeed
12. December 2020, 22:16
Neil Patrick
The best build of this kit I've seen. Fantastic building, painting and weathering. Still too scared to start mine.
13. December 2020, 09:05
BAT21
Many thanks - all the positive feedback makes me a little embarrassed😉
13. December 2020, 14:38
OttovonLindberg
BAT, this Revell boxing has night bomber markings as well German Veteran Aircraft (Revell 05714, 1:72)

1:72 German Veteran Aircraft (Revell 05714)
 


Also, why did you combine the kit and Squadron canopies instead of just using the Squdron ones?
13. December 2020, 16:06
playtime 222
Very nice. Little detail - I liked the landing lights.
13. December 2020, 16:47
BAT21
@Otto: Look at picture 21 - the gaps were to big, the fit between Revell and Squadron parts was not perfect but much better.
13. December 2020, 20:16
OttovonLindberg
Oh sorry, I thought picture 21 was the kit parts
13. December 2020, 21:32
29. December 2020, 21:39
Skywalker
Well done
30. December 2020, 00:02
Bill Davis
Very well done!
30. December 2020, 02:53
BAT21
Thanks mates!
31. December 2020, 13:26
Guy Rump
Lovely build 🙂
31. December 2020, 21:09
Gary Victory
Fantastic build on a intresting subject and cool looking aircraft. Well done Sir.
12. April, 06:24
Clifford Keesler
That is one beautiful bird.
13. April, 01:00
Neuling
I agree with Guy, Gary and Clifford. 👍👍👍
13. April, 06:53
Andy Ball
Cracker!
13. April, 11:26
David Januska
Really nice result and perfect work, congrats 👍.
13. April, 13:21
BAT21
Many thanks!
14. April, 08:45

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1:72
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1:72 Heinkel He 177A-5 "Greif" (Revell 03913)1:72 He 177 A-3 lower ailerons (AIMS )1:72 Heinkel He 177 - Exterior set (CMK 7061)6+
 

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