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Sergej I
Thank you BAT21, interesting info indeed.
21. October, 21:44
Sergej I
Wasalso wondering, what is the purpose of having brass landing gear? Is it that more detailed than plastic?
21. October, 21:46
BAT21
Yes, it has the brake lines already moulded on.
And the landing gear is a little bit thicker - the kit parts fit better for the F variant.
22. October, 06:58
22. October, 07:20
Nathan Dempsey
Nice subject.
23. October, 03:57
Kees Kleijwegt
Following! Cool project and AM inventory
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Clifford Keesler
Count me in.
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Alec K
Wondering if you are doing other modifications besides the ailerons to backdate the A-5 to A-3?
27. September, 23:44
BAT21
No, had no further modifications planned. Are they necessary?
28. September, 16:16
Cuajete
Very nice details .
28. September, 17:53
Alec K
I am not really sure, was just wondering what you came up with. I had the He 177 build on my radar for quite some time and this miniGB has whetted my appetite ;)

I started to look into whether I can build the A-5 with the black undersides. The AirDoc title has a nice "black" profile of 6N+HP of 6./KG 100 with a corresponding photo on page 33. That the 6N+HP was an A-5 is corroborated by both the Warpaint #33 title (page 18) and Classic He 177 (page 201) titles (see my He 177 project for more info on these books).

In the process of verifying this, I am trying to understand how the A-5 version differed from the A-3. Thus far I was unable to find any scale drawings that would authoritatively help identify the differences. The https://military.wikireading.ru/14353 source has profile drawings of the said versions, but no wing detail. On page 181 of the Classic He 177 title is the following description of the A-5 version:

Designed primarily to carry external loads, such as the LT 50 torpedo and the Fritz-X and Hs 293 missiles. Based on the A-3 but with a further strengthened wing, shortened undercarriage oleo legs, cable instead of servo controls, and armour plate on the underside of nose removed and replaced by Plexiglas to improve forward visibility. The Fowler flaps along the outboard wing sections were also removed.

Based on that, I would say that modifying the A-5 into A-3 would involve the following:
1. Removal of any fuselage/wing mountings for the LT 50 torpedo, Fritz-X, or Hs 293 if present.
2. Strengthened wing (thus far I was unable to find whether this affect the wing appearance in any way).
3. Modifying the undercarriage (thus far I was unable to find any details how exactly the two differed).
4. Simulate armour plate on the underside of nose (I would guess that painting the clear part will do just that)
5. Remove Fowler flaps along the outboard wing sections (presumably the ailerons from AIMS accomplish just that).
6. Strengthened wing (thus far I was unable to find whether this affect the wing appearance in any way).

All this said, I must admit that my cursory study of the photographs left me more confused that wise. For example: many photos tagged as A-5 version show the bottom section of the nose armored (or were they just overpainted?). The 6N+HN tagged as A-5 in the AirDoc title (page 32) shows the AIMS-style ailerons (were these not on the A-3 only?). And on and on.

My apologies if I am going too deep into this, but I tend to get little over-interested in the accuracy when I should be building :D Certainly no matter what you do, the model will surely be magnificent . Cheers.
29. September, 15:34
Daniel Klink
Great Alec and yes there is much confusion around the 177
I recently found out that the A6/R1 Testmachines weren't former A5 but late A3's instead.
So my Build is a total What if...
29. September, 17:59
Alec K
Yes, it looks like the late A-3s and A-5s were very similar. I just started to read the Classic book so hopefully there is some more detail about this.
29. September, 19:43
Clifford Keesler
Nice project also.
30. September, 00:52
Guy Rump
Looking really good so far, I like your PE additions. :)
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October 4, 2020

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Project: 9K33 Osa
1:35 SA-8 Gecko (Trumpeter 05597)1:35 Wheel set for 9K33 Osa SA-8 Gecko Anti Aircraft system (Miniarm B35084)
20 | 28. September, 16:36
Lenny Li
Looks great. Really love the interior painting scheme.
29. September, 00:48
BAT21
Thanks, but most of the interior can hardly be seen inside the vehicle :(
1. October, 12:33
Michael Papay
Great work. It's sad that interior is not visible anymore
2. October, 14:38
Tom B.
Very nice paint job
2. October, 16:17
Rui S
Very well done
2. October, 21:44
BAT21
Many thanks mates.
3. October, 14:54
Treehugger
Is that scratchbuilt "rubber sealing" around the windows? Is so, how was it done?
3. October, 16:03
BAT21
No, only black paint.
3. October, 21:39
Neuling
Top work on this interesting vehicle! Paintwork and weathering are excellent.
4. October, 09:39
Henrik Persson
Nice work.
4. October, 15:57
BAT21
Added some pictures of the original; photographed in Finowfurt in 2012.
4. October, 15:57

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25. September, 06:48
bughunter
Oh ja, Jens baut ein WNW Da warte ich ja schon Jahre drauf ;)
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29. September, 18:27
Thomas K.
cool project! ;)
30. September, 11:00
Ingo F
Nice!
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1:35 SA-8 Gecko (Trumpeter 05597)1:35 Wheel set for 9K33 Osa SA-8 Gecko Anti Aircraft system (Miniarm B35084)
 
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September 27, 2020

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September 20, 2020

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1:35 Merkava Mk.4M (Meng Model TS-036)
 
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1:48 Hawker Sea Fury FB.11 (Trumpeter 02844)1:48 Sea Fury cockpit set (Aires 4429)1:48 Hawker Sea Fury wheel bay (Aires 4452)1+
 
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September 19, 2020

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September 18, 2020

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September 17, 2020

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September 15, 2020

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1:48 Wyvern S.4 (Trumpeter 02843)1:48 "Wyvern" S.4 (Trumpeter 02820)4+
 
1 | 15. September, 18:52
Sebastian Meyner
Oohhh, Wyvern ...und dann gleich noch zwei davon :—) Front row for me please
15. September, 19:29
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September 13, 2020

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Project: Floatfire
1:48 Spitfire Mk.Vb (Airfix A05125)1:48 Spitfife Mk.V/IX Radio set (CMK Q48152)1:48 Spitfire Mk.V landing flaps (Eduard 48822)4+
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Treehugger
When you want a Spitfire, but also a boat. :D

Nice. Is this a real Spitfire variant? Never seen one with floaters before.
10. September, 15:54
Daniel Klink
ehm, great result once again Jens...
But mate, how do you realize this output. Your days must have more than 24 hours :)
10. September, 15:56
BAT21
@Treehugger: its a real variant, but only a few were built.
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@Daniel: my day has only 24 hours, but a week has 9 days :D
10. September, 18:13
Rui S
Excellent Work
10. September, 19:38
Neuling
I agree with Rui.
11. September, 08:55
Björn Svedberg
Cool project! It must have been fun doing something different with the spitfire. :)
11. September, 09:03
11. September, 10:42
Gordon Sørensen
Great looking Floating Spit, Bat21! I have the old PM 1/72 Kit to do some day...
11. September, 16:45
BAT21
Final picture added.
13. September, 13:39

September 11, 2020

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September 10, 2020

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Project: S-200 Wega
1:35 Russian 5V28 of 5P72 Launcher SAM-5 "Gammon" (Trumpeter 09550)
9 | 9. September, 14:05
Slavo Hazucha
Very cool - I guess it´s pretty big, looks seriously impressive - good job
9. September, 15:21
KlausH
Very nice work! Outstanding paintjob and great pics!
9. September, 15:45
BAT21
Thanks mates. Yes, its one of the bigger models in my showcase. :D
9. September, 19:17
Neuling
Top build and photography!
10. September, 08:12
BAT21
Thanks Neuling!
10. September, 13:19
Spanjaard
wow... it simply looks real! congratulations on a fantastic job.
10. September, 13:24
BAT21
Thanks :#
10. September, 18:14
Daniel Klink
Very nice and impressive done russian suppository dispenser Jens
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1:48 Spitfire Mk.Vb (Airfix A05125)1:48 Spitfife Mk.V/IX Radio set (CMK Q48152)5+
 
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1:72 Ju-86P (RS Models 92077)
 
Ju-86P German high altitude reconnaissance & bomber aircraft
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September 4, 2020

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August 26, 2020

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1:72 Heinkel He-177A-5 Greif (Revell 03913)1:72 Heinkel He 177 - Exterior set (CMK 7061)5+
 
1 | 25. August, 13:14
Daniel Klink
Same idea here! :)
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25. August, 17:55
Daniel Klink
Same idea here! :)
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25. August, 17:55
BAT21
Equals goes it loose? :P
25. August, 18:33
Daniel Klink
Yap i 'll give you a bit of a head start :)
26. August, 12:15

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August 22, 2020

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1:72 Bristol Beaufighter TF.X (Airfix A04019)1:72 Bristol Beaufighter Mk.X (Eduard BIG72100)1:72 Bristol Beaufighter propeller set (SBS Model 72032)6+
 
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