Grumman J2F-5 Savedduck
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2 5 December 2018, 19:53
TreehuggerInteresting. I've always wanted this kit. Nice to see the extra work and curious what else you plan to do here. 🙂
6 December 2018, 08:16
Holger KranichSeems to be important for Berhard that the plane is one Thing at least: Ugly!😉
It s like an accident on the Highway, you have to watch it! Hang in there, Bernhard! 👍
6 December 2018, 13:42
Wim van der Luijtyou designed a PE set for rigging wire?.......wow (just out of curiousity, how much does that cost?)
6 December 2018, 14:37
Roberto RocatThis one made me remember the movie Murphy's War (en.wikipedia.org/wik..7s_War)....Following 👍
6 December 2018, 14:44
Bernhard SchrockWim, many years ago I designed with Thomas Gatermann a similar etched plate but meanwhile I'm slowly running out of stock.
Some months ago I created an artwork for the antenna for the Hayabusa space vehicle and I was very happy with the result that I got from AEHC (small company specializing in custom etching). The rigging plate (200mmx100mm) is similar in size to the Hayabusa antenna and I suppose that the cost will be similar too (aprox. 45-50€).
6 December 2018, 20:27
TreehuggerImpressive (photo 3). What trickery is was done to get the metal parts into the somewhat translucent parts there for the floating device? Is that styrene or something else?
8 December 2018, 12:26
Bernhard SchrockTreehugger; they are cotton swabs (Qtipps) stretched over a candle (picture 11).
11 December 2018, 20:05
Bernhard SchrockAfter revising the artwork (200x150 mm matching the standard sheet size) I received today the etched plate and I'm veeeeeery happy with the result. Crisp and absolutely flawless quality!
21 December 2018, 12:38
Bernhard PetheBernhard und die Wasserflugzeuge😉 Es bleibt interessant. Frohe Weihnacht. 🙂
21 December 2018, 17:20
Hanno KleineckeAll these precious small details in the cockpit, actuators and rigging look as if they were functional. Masterly Bernhard !
31 December 2018, 16:47
Bernhard SchrockFirst I wish all Mates all the best in the new year! Thx for watching and kind commenting my projects🙂
During the last days I had a bit of time and continued my actually project. I discovered some mistakes in the kit🙁 For example the position of the rear short struts is wrong. They have to be fixed approximately 5 mm more forward.
Between the first and second fuselage panel should be a gap when you look from the rear. In the kit both panels are flush to each other.
At last the edges of the oil cooler inlet are not sharp but funnel shaped. The grid is mounted not outside but inside. Unfortunately I saw that too late...
3 January 2019, 09:46
Bernhard SchrockEngine is completed. Exhaust stacks and intake pipes: rarely I have had to do the same task as often....
5 January 2019, 15:12
Stefan FraundorferPerfect craftsmanship as always Bernhard. I'm watching your steps.
6 January 2019, 09:02
Marco GallmannBernhard, that is an amazing work on the Engine. Especially the weathering effects on the exhaust pipes. 👍 Als well the other parts of the Duck too.
6 January 2019, 09:52
TreehuggerWhat aftermarket kit is that engine? It looks like resin because of the color. The painted engine looks really nice.
6 January 2019, 09:56
bughunterBernhard, again a great project! Love all the details, especially the trim control and the engine 👍
6 January 2019, 10:00
potez452Really great project Bernhard ! amazing detailing. Are photoetched riggings aftermarket ones or personnal works ?
8 January 2019, 21:28
Bernhard Schrockpotez452: So far I know there is nothing comparable at the market. Because of that I designed the sheet myself. I think there are enough rigging for on dozen biplanes or so
9 January 2019, 08:30
Bernhard SchrockNext to last task before painting is completed: landing gear. Next step is the greenhouse canopy. Last week I vacu formed over the kit part new parts too leave the cockpit open. Unfortunately the kit provides only one clear piece for all 5 separate parts. It's impossible to divide it up.
13 January 2019, 13:53
bughunterYour scratch build gear with evergreen is fantastic 👍 I hope it can support the model.
13 January 2019, 14:22
Bernhard SchrockVery good hint. Thx. But ...everything is reinforced with wire🙂
13 January 2019, 15:50
Bart Goesaertlooking good... no reinforcement strip around the wheel well? shame on you 😉 (Just kidding by the way )
14 January 2019, 08:09
Hanno KleineckeCockpithaube á la Toaster ? Wenn das Brot erst mal ein paar Tage alt ist, hilft der Toaster auch.... 🙂 Nive job on the „flight ration" ! Bon appetite !🙂
14 January 2019, 17:44
TreehuggerAha. I guess it was fortunate that the kit part for the canopy glass was one piece, which I guess made it easier to make a vacuum shape from it.
14 January 2019, 17:56
Bernhard SchrockYesterday I finished the last task before painting and so I visited today the excellent picture gallery on Seawings. I wonted to look for details for painting. Again I discovered a lot of mistakes. I don't won't to be picky but there were not small. I almost lost heart to finish the duck. My first idea was smash my kit, boxed it and send it back to Merit. It is scandalous that an American company which has half a dozen Ducks around the corner is unable to produce a decent kit. By the way: the fabric surfaces do not remotely look like the original as well. Even Lindberg did a better fabric-job more than 40 years ago.
I think I'm going to leave this junk and tomorrow I'm going to start Tamiya Wildcat.....
15 January 2019, 20:09
Hanno KleineckeOops accidently deleted my post..... Really cancelled ? After all that brillant detailwork ? That would be a real shame ! Maybe consider it a „ What if I would'nt have noticed" 🙂 ?
15 January 2019, 20:18
TreehuggerOuch. I haven't researched this particular subject since I made a 3D model of the Grumman Duck on a computer a long time ago, so I don't know how accurate the Merit kit is. I did find it odd that the side windows by the wing root seemed to look like being flat, when I think it should be more like a box. That was the only thing that stopped me from buying the kit, for quite a while now.
15 January 2019, 20:43
Thomas Bischoffthat's sad to hear - especially after all the work you put into her but I see your points and agree with the mentioned defects.
15 January 2019, 21:16
bughunterPity. Really pity, after all the effort you spent. I hope you can at least save the engines fro another project.
15 January 2019, 21:51
Wim van der Luijtsuch a shame after all the fine craftsmanship you displayed here.....hope the next one will be better
16 January 2019, 07:22
Bart Goesaerttoo bad about that decision, but to me, and with your skills it seems manageable... may not a true replica in the sence of a scaled down original, but it looks like the changes needed are doable, maybe after a good nights sleep and when you are over this disappointment...
16 January 2019, 08:24
Bernhard SchrockThank you for the specDUCKular support. Now I have to finish the bird. 🙂
17 January 2019, 17:37
Hanno KleineckeIch bin beeinD(r)UCK(t) ! Evergreenrohr ? Excellent solution for this kitbug !
17 January 2019, 18:22
bughunterThere is nearly nothing on this planet, which cannot be corrected with Evergreen by Bernhard 👍
17 January 2019, 18:28
Bernhard Schrock🙂. Hanno: i used 1,2 mm thick plate and "carved" the triangle. The rest is 0,25 mm sheet and Tamiyas CA.
17 January 2019, 18:39
Marco GallmannBernhard - the Lord of plastic, it is amazing, how you have added and created the missing maintenance stap 👍
17 January 2019, 21:03
Bernhard SchrockPicture 48: I would like to hear you opinion. Are the prop tips painted yellow (1) or red/yellow/blue (2)? I tend to paint them (2).
21 January 2019, 13:57
Bart Goesaertaccording to the Classic airframes instructions, it should be yellow. Thinking in some photo's i see white/red/white (finescale.com/produc..grumman-j2f-5-6-duck) which seems more plausible... So no answer, more questions... 😉
21 January 2019, 14:31
Bart Goesaertclubhyper.com/reference/showandtell6db_1.htm
Maybe the caracal decal sheet they will release sooner or later can shed some light, so maybe you can ask what they have concluded so far.
Main question, are the pictures with red/yellow/blue prop-tips early versions, wartime or before...
21 January 2019, 16:09
bughunterBernhard, if I look at your picture 48, then I see in the upper arc (wing and above) a shadow outside of the bright color, so I would assume also a multicolor wing tip.
21 January 2019, 16:19
Bernhard Schrockbughunter and Bart: thx for our feedback. During the transition time between the grey to grey/blue gray scheme both of prop top colours were used. I agree bughunter: outside of the bright arc I see a second arc, a bit darker and probably red.
21 January 2019, 17:44
Marco GallmannBernhard, maybe this will help [img1]
I use this website for black and white photos, sometimes it works great, sometimes not but it was a big help in the past more than once. It looks like white and red to me.
21 January 2019, 17:56
Michael HickeyYou always seem to amaze me with what you are capable of Bernhard.👍
24 January 2019, 20:28
Gordon SørensenI was looking at an older issue of Aeroplane (March 2015) and it had an article about a Duck, although it is a J2F-4. The pictures of the aircraft show the prop with Red/Yellow/Blue tips (from the tip in).
google.com/search?q=..imgrc=5monq2SdTCnodM
28 January 2019, 17:13
Bernhard SchrockThank you Mates for propeller-support. I painted the tips in three colors.
Yesterday I applied the decals (roundels). Because the Duck is my first kit by Merit and I have no experience with his decals I played it save and used Aeromaster. Also with the letters Merit did not do a good job: see the original in comparison with decal. It looks like I will do the letters myself.
2 February 2019, 08:34
Bart GoesaertCan't you use the letters, but cut the words up to place them closer, or are these too small overall?
2 February 2019, 11:49
Bernhard SchrockBart: unfortunately the letters have the wrong shape and the distance between the letters is too small. All in all I think that new decals are the best and simplest way. I spent about one hour to create them.
2 February 2019, 14:43
Bernhard SchrockMoveable canopy parts: the effort (more than 1 hour masking) was worth. I'm very happy with the result (picture 69 and 70 🙂
6 February 2019, 06:48
TreehuggerNice progress. 🙂 I was wondering if you had stopped completely or not, I had to come take a look today.
Btw, as you can see on your model (image 58 ), on each side, or perhaps only on the port side, there are panel lines for an in-step thingy, one for the front and the back seat respectively, which iirc springs inwards once you put the tip of your foot inside, so I guess this is supposed to look closed on the molded model surface. An interesting detail if one had a rag-doll like figure with bendable arms/legs which was posed to look like it was climbing into the canopy.
6 February 2019, 13:30
Bart GoesaertWonderfull Bird you are building. stunning craftmanship and attention and excecution to/off details. Isn't the tube a visior/telescope for reconnaissance? Fighters used this to identity planes in the distance... Maybe the same, but for identifying reasons.
10 February 2019, 08:14
bughunterMy guess is too a telescopic sight, was already used in WWI, search for "Aldis sight". But, it looks like, that your sight needs to go more to on side, otherwise it will be blocked by the air scoop on top of the engine?
10 February 2019, 10:13
Dieter BihlmaierMensch Bernhard, um ein Haar könnte man meinen, dass das Modell in 1:32 wäre! Toll gemacht, wie immer.
10 February 2019, 13:39
Bernhard SchrockThx for supporting me on the last 111 yards. If you can remember one of the mistakes: the rear fuselage struts were too near the cockpit. I have corrected it and pleased too early... then the connection point on the upper wing is wrong also (arghhhhh!).
10 February 2019, 14:26
Hanno KleineckeSo the bug list is still growing longer ? Looking excellent so far though !
10 February 2019, 19:29
Bernhard SchrockI'm very glad that you like duck (meanwhile it's more a „hässliches Entlein" by Hans Christian Andersen)🙂
11 February 2019, 11:34
Bernhard SchrockThx! Wiring is now in place. It was very easy to apply (my own) etched flat wiring. Just finished the spread bars.
13 February 2019, 19:33
Bernhard SchrockModel_Mania: your idea honored me. Thx. Indeed I would like to wish that a company release such a etched plate. Obviously to little demand...
16 February 2019, 12:02
Bernhard SchrockToday morning I finished the Duck and as usual immediately photographed the bird.
16 February 2019, 12:04
Holger KranichGeiles Teil Bernhard! Hat wie immer Spaß gemacht, zu zuschauen. Ich hoffe Du hattest genauso viel Spaß bei der Sache.
16 February 2019, 12:16
Nathan DempseyThat Duck came out great! I think seeing this one being built may have influenced me to buy that Seamew at the show last weekend.
16 February 2019, 13:44
Hanno KleineckeFertig ! I'm glad that you saved the duck, beautiful result Bernhard !
16 February 2019, 14:01
Alec KNot sure how the heck this sneaked past me. What a build and what a recovery! Just awesome. I wonder how the ciabatta turned out... 😛
Question: assuming you printed your own decals, what type of printer and decal paper do you use? I always have an issue of the ink shrinking once dry, leaving spiderweb- like cracks. Thanks, and again, masterly build 👍
16 February 2019, 16:02
Johne 69Another Masterpiece from you. If you had not finished this kit you had felt like an duckel 🙂
16 February 2019, 18:05
Alexander GrivonevAnother crown jewel in Your collection, Bernhard! Always a pleasure following Your projects👍
17 February 2019, 10:48
Bernhard SchrockAlec K: sorry, I've forgotten to replay your question. I used a standard decal paper probably Xpert choice Decals an printed them with a Minolta office Printer / copying machine.
18 February 2019, 04:55
