Five seats in one stroke!
That are five wicker seats 3D printed by Eduard (648659).
The sprue with wings and fuselage for the new Ship's Camel is called B. Normal Camel was A, the Comic C.
Also the wings are not common! The wingspan of the Ship's one is smaller.
On the fuselage you can see connectors in the middle as the aft part could be removed. The control wires runs outside as inside was an airbag to avoid sinking.
On the fuselage you can see connectors in the middle as the aft part could be removed. The control wires runs outside as inside was an airbag to avoid sinking.
Reduction of wingspan also on upper wing and the cutout in the middle is again different.
That took me by surprise! Sprue D and E should be common for all 3 Camel variants and known already, but what the hell is this?
Lower E from my first Camel kit, with slide mould - in the middle between both moulds. This allows holes in the cowlings, but causes a seam which needs to be sanded.
Above a new sprue E from the Ship's Camel kit. Same parts but new production method! The slide mould pins runs now though one mould, so the cowlings are sitting now at a different level and are much better! I guess this is now part of all Camel kits.
Kudos to Eduard for improving the mould of a product that is already on sale 👍
Lower E from my first Camel kit, with slide mould - in the middle between both moulds. This allows holes in the cowlings, but causes a seam which needs to be sanded.
Above a new sprue E from the Ship's Camel kit. Same parts but new production method! The slide mould pins runs now though one mould, so the cowlings are sitting now at a different level and are much better! I guess this is now part of all Camel kits.
Kudos to Eduard for improving the mould of a product that is already on sale 👍
I soldered a undercarriage from brass of different diameter. 18 parts on the pic. That is a different type I have not done yet.
The struts are only 0.7 mm but already more robust than the plastic part with enhancement.
The struts are only 0.7 mm but already more robust than the plastic part with enhancement.
On the upper end I added thicker bushes and pins for mounting. In metal it looks nicer. The 3-layer lower board is made the same way as on my other Sopwith types. The half axles are made from 0.9mm nickel silver.
All plugged together into the lower fuselage part.
As next I made wooden strut enhancements with a fillet at the front. Glued with CA and makes the struts even more robust. I will add bands later.
A side view shows it better.
With wheels in the normal position.
And the axles in full deflected position which is only possible because the suspension is missing.
On the first Camel I used a Löök instrument panel, on the Camel Comic I painted the panel and used decals. But here I noticed that the Space set provides a panel for the Ship's Camel (and one for the normal Camel). So I use the chance to try a 3D printed panel for the first time!
On top left the Space panel applied to the (already flat!) kit part, in the middle the one for the decals and on the right a thicker one. The Profipack provides also a PE panel. Here I like the printing of the dials, but the instruments are flat.
In another view you can see the details are 3D.
A lot of work was done for the preparation of the cockpit parts with priming, linen, metal, wood base, wood painting, ...
Some parts are mounted now and the internal rigging was added.
On the picture I noticed the moved down brass "turnbuckle". It is back to its position now!
On the picture I noticed the moved down brass "turnbuckle". It is back to its position now!
Some fuel lines added from copper wire and brass.
I decided to use the Eduard Steel belts (provided with seats and Space set).
Also some additions in the other halve (please note the fuel gauge! - made from stretched clear sprue in brass pipe), a washing applied and the fuselage halves can be closed.
The wooden airscrew is prepared in raw shape.
The back side. Only primer is applied yet.
And the side.
I made the bearing for the rotatable engine. This time a bit shorter due to size constraints.
"My" Ship's Camel need a Bentley B.R.1. This type is not available from Small Stuff, but as 3D print by Eduard.
I removed the print supports and modified it for my mount.
I removed the print supports and modified it for my mount.
It fits below the cowling
Front view.
And with making the cowling thinner it can rotate now.
The back side of the engine will be visible from below.
The engine is painted and washed. Only the ignition wires are missing.
In another angle the washing is not that visible.
A good fixation makes soldering easier.
No need to clean seams. And the real reason: at the top you can see 4 open pipes.
Metal look and grips added.
Mounted on the front part, added also the rudder pedal (which I forgot to paint before) and some control wires.
The front was glued to the fuselage.
The front was glued to the fuselage.
I used a (half) Eduard resin kit for the Vickers. Below a nice one from Gaspatch, which could also be used.
But if you not glue the Vickers barrel before it helps a lot during the paint job, here test fit.
Test fit of the barrel (which the help of a brass pin).
So I fixed the back part of the Vickers to its mounts..
The cover is now also glued in place.
The control wires running outside because of the airbag. Eduard has integrated the guides into the fuselages sides, but I have another idea and cut them away.
The fuselage is primed.
To secure the wood on the struts, linen tapes were wrapped around.
The undercarriage parts are painted in green.
A new tail skid - this time not made from wood but metal. It was painted in black and I think it was made of steel.
I turned and milled caps for the fuel and oil tanks. The kit has only some plastic "pins", so I used real brass and don't need to paint them.
The separable fuselage has some fittings that Eduard has moulded on (please see pic 26). I decided to cut them away for easier painting, so I need new fittings. I soldered four brass stripes to a block. So I can drill and file all four at once. After separation with soldering iron I have four identical parts.
The engine is now equipped with 18 spark plugs and 18 ignition wires.
The Ship's Camel has a "RNAS pattern" single Lewis gun mount in a cutout of the upper wing, which allows rotation of the Lewis MG, e.g. for drum exchange and firing in high angles.
On the left you see the gun mount of the kit, which I build for comparison. The right one is the Eduard 3D printed mount (648725). Very closed to a ref pic and very filigree! I managed to break a part while cleaning the 3D supports. Fixed with CA immediately.
I will use the 3D part, even it is not rotatable (but the manual shows, how to mount it in different positions).
On the left you see the gun mount of the kit, which I build for comparison. The right one is the Eduard 3D printed mount (648725). Very closed to a ref pic and very filigree! I managed to break a part while cleaning the 3D supports. Fixed with CA immediately.
I will use the 3D part, even it is not rotatable (but the manual shows, how to mount it in different positions).
Additionally for the frame in the previous picture there are two parts of different length (for the different mounting positions) of the "rubber" spring assembly. Here you see my painted part on top of the Cent on a reference picture.
The inner struts of the Ship's Camel were not made from wood but steel. Eduard provided a special set of struts which are slender (is that the right word? I mean not thinner), but injection moulding has its limits. On the drawing shows more slender struts so I made new ones from squeezed brass. The struts are painted grey already in the picture.
I made again a Rotherham Air Pump (Eduard 3D printed set 648674). Painted with Alclads and the air screw with Gunze Mahagony.
The metal struts are added to the fuselage. The Rotherham Air Pump is not mounted to the undercarriage but upper strut. The air pressure pipe is 0.2mm copper wire.
On the fuselage the wood painting is done and the front is grey.
On the fuselage the wood painting is done and the front is grey.
The fuel cups (pic 46) are mounted, the leather paint on the cockpit is done.
Please note the brass fasteners which are squeezed 0.2mm brass wire.
Please note the brass fasteners which are squeezed 0.2mm brass wire.
The Vickers MG and the windshield are now also in place. The cowling and the alu panels are secured with ropes.
And finally a better view of the mounted Rotherham Air Pump.
The outer struts were made from wood so I made new wooden ones with the usual brass core.
Painted with wood primer and clear paints.
Painted with wood primer and clear paints.
Please see the guides for the control wires on the fuselage side.
As I decided earlier to remove the moulded on guides I need a new solution.
As I decided earlier to remove the moulded on guides I need a new solution.
That is my solution: 0.5mm pipe with cross hole for my rigging tubes.
If you look on the front of the one on the Cent corner it looks like on the sketch.
If you look on the front of the one on the Cent corner it looks like on the sketch.
For easier painting I put this little buggers on a thin wire.
Now also the elevation control levers remade. Used PE from the PART set, Gaspatch turnbuckles Type C and 0.6mm nickel silver micro tube.
And yes, there are also transverse securing cotter pins in the pipe!
And yes, there are also transverse securing cotter pins in the pipe!
As this is the Ship's Camel I need a new base plate. The platforms on the ships were improvised, so why not even more so for the model.
I had thick veneer of a poor quality - no idea what kind of wood it is. I built a frame from scrap wood, sawed the veneer into strips and glued it on piece by piece.
I had thick veneer of a poor quality - no idea what kind of wood it is. I built a frame from scrap wood, sawed the veneer into strips and glued it on piece by piece.
he platform is finished. But it looks a bit too new, doesn't it?
The rudder had also a double control wire connection. So I drilled the hole in the control horn to 0.2mm for adding an 0.2mm nickel silver axle. I cut a slot into a PE fret, bent that around the axle. I drilled to holes for the wires into the brass and filed around to make it smaller. That two times.
I hope you get the principle from the picture.
I hope you get the principle from the picture.
I primed (white) and painted the rudder with white/insignia white, RAF red and RAF blue (Drooling bulldog paints). Then I added the control horns, painted them a black grey and finally added four control wires. That is much easier outside of the model!
Stored safely for later mounting.
Stored safely for later mounting.
For the model another little detail - the pitot. The pipes are 0.3mm micro tubes of nickel silver.
One strut has it molded on, but I need it new for my wooden struts.
One strut has it molded on, but I need it new for my wooden struts.
The first try. I used ivory black, Payne's grey, white, burnt umber.
But the areas with wood glue are visible.
But the areas with wood glue are visible.
After a day drying I sanded the surface and applied another layer of wash. On top of some areas only burnt umber as dirt in some areas. Some engine oil drops.
Depending of light, angle and camera setting the colors are totally different. I think it is ok now, not too old but used.
Depending of light, angle and camera setting the colors are totally different. I think it is ok now, not too old but used.
The airscrew is finally finished, with painting, metal parts on the hub and decal.
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64 23 June 2023, 19:08
bughunter
Many of the British types need those wicker seats, and the 3D-printed seats that Eduard has come out with for their Camel have wonderful details. To save effort, I painted five in one go. 😉
Many of the British types need those wicker seats, and the 3D-printed seats that Eduard has come out with for their Camel have wonderful details. To save effort, I painted five in one go. 😉
23 June 2023, 19:17
bughunter
Yes Alec, but it do not sell it's products! 🙂 Will be used for own projects.
The parts of the brand new Eduard Ship's Camel arrived, so I can show the differences.
Yes Alec, but it do not sell it's products! 🙂 Will be used for own projects.
The parts of the brand new Eduard Ship's Camel arrived, so I can show the differences.
24 June 2023, 15:32
bughunter
Welcome Villiers and Robert!
I made a new undercarriage from metal and wood. That type I have not yet done before.
Welcome Villiers and Robert!
I made a new undercarriage from metal and wood. That type I have not yet done before.
27 June 2023, 17:30
Bruce Huxtable
Witnessing the workmanship in even just the undercarriage makes me smile with pleasure 🙂 It's a joy to behold!
Witnessing the workmanship in even just the undercarriage makes me smile with pleasure 🙂 It's a joy to behold!
27 June 2023, 18:02
bughunter
No Greg, I'm not a tailor but just a lazy bastard!
Doing similar parts in one go save the efforts around like cleaning airbrush and brushes ...
Don't you do something similar with more than one racer at a time?
No Greg, I'm not a tailor but just a lazy bastard!
Doing similar parts in one go save the efforts around like cleaning airbrush and brushes ...
Don't you do something similar with more than one racer at a time?
29 June 2023, 12:29
bughunter
16 Spandau MGs in one blow!
Albatros Dr.I | Album by bughunter (1:48)
They already wanted to report me for violations of the War Weapons Control Act ...
16 Spandau MGs in one blow!
Albatros Dr.I | Album by bughunter (1:48)
They already wanted to report me for violations of the War Weapons Control Act ...
29 June 2023, 14:39
bughunter
A lot of work was done for the cockpit. I used a Eduard SPACE set the first time.
Ben, the 0.3mm brass for the "turnbuckles" was cut with rolling scalpel.
A lot of work was done for the cockpit. I used a Eduard SPACE set the first time.
Ben, the 0.3mm brass for the "turnbuckles" was cut with rolling scalpel.
29 June 2023, 18:02
bughunter
Fuselage is closed, wooden airscrew is prepared is raw shape and the Bentley B.R.1 rotary engine is done.
Fuselage is closed, wooden airscrew is prepared is raw shape and the Bentley B.R.1 rotary engine is done.
4 July 2023, 17:49
Ludvík Kružík
Another interesting project from your workshop. I am following it with great interest.
Another interesting project from your workshop. I am following it with great interest.
19 July 2023, 13:46
Kyle DeHart
Sometimes I am remiss in noticing ongoing builds. Can't wait to see this one come together.
Sometimes I am remiss in noticing ongoing builds. Can't wait to see this one come together.
26 July 2023, 22:24
bughunter
Thank you mates!
@Lochsa What a great praise <red_face_smily>
@Kyle I want to see it also with all parts together ... Hope it will be a beauty!
May be I can show some more mounted parts later this day.
Thank you mates!
@Lochsa What a great praise <red_face_smily>
@Kyle I want to see it also with all parts together ... Hope it will be a beauty!
May be I can show some more mounted parts later this day.
27 July 2023, 10:54
bughunter
Thank you Alec!
As promised there are new pics after a lot of work was spent on the front of the fuselage.
Thank you Alec!
As promised there are new pics after a lot of work was spent on the front of the fuselage.
27 July 2023, 19:15
bughunter
Thank you Robert!
I found a working solution for the removed control wire guides on the fuselage.
Thank you Robert!
I found a working solution for the removed control wire guides on the fuselage.
28 July 2023, 19:33
bughunter
Thanks Ludvík!
I built a wooden ship platform. But how can you weather it? I have "medium oak" stain, but the color is not so nice and I was probably not careful enough with the wood glue to be able to use stain now. What can I use instead, oil paints?
Thanks Ludvík!
I built a wooden ship platform. But how can you weather it? I have "medium oak" stain, but the color is not so nice and I was probably not careful enough with the wood glue to be able to use stain now. What can I use instead, oil paints?
31 July 2023, 08:35
Christoph Kunz
Servus Bughunter,
I bought this one Aerodrome Covering (Wooden B..W2 (DANmodels DM72281, 1:72)
And they suggest to use a firelighter for weathering. Maybe you want to try? 🤔
And the detail work is amazing. 👍
Servus Bughunter,
I bought this one Aerodrome Covering (Wooden B..W2 (DANmodels DM72281, 1:72)
And they suggest to use a firelighter for weathering. Maybe you want to try? 🤔
And the detail work is amazing. 👍
31 July 2023, 09:01
Alec K
MicroMark sells wood aging liquids. Unfortunately they are in US only, but maybe there is something similar available in Europe?
micromark.com then search for Age-It Easy.
MicroMark sells wood aging liquids. Unfortunately they are in US only, but maybe there is something similar available in Europe?
micromark.com then search for Age-It Easy.
31 July 2023, 12:55
Martin Oostrom
I have used Mig's oil and grease stains on wood before, picture 10 & 11: My son's F4U-4 Corsair (almost) solo build | Album by Mahoo76 (1:72)
I have used Mig's oil and grease stains on wood before, picture 10 & 11: My son's F4U-4 Corsair (almost) solo build | Album by Mahoo76 (1:72)
31 July 2023, 15:10
bughunter
Thank you very much for your recommendations!
I tried a washing with different dark oil paints, works ok so far - but problematic on the locations with wood glue. Should have done it before glueing! Ok, will now let it dry and then sand the surface.
Thank you very much for your recommendations!
I tried a washing with different dark oil paints, works ok so far - but problematic on the locations with wood glue. Should have done it before glueing! Ok, will now let it dry and then sand the surface.
1 August 2023, 09:08
Ludvík Kružík
You're right, the only way to get rid of the glue is to sand the wood. Tinting wood with oil, water or alcohol based paints only works if the wood can absorb the paint. The glue on the surface of the wood prevents the paint from soaking in and these areas remain in the original color of the wood. But you've already figured that out.
You're right, the only way to get rid of the glue is to sand the wood. Tinting wood with oil, water or alcohol based paints only works if the wood can absorb the paint. The glue on the surface of the wood prevents the paint from soaking in and these areas remain in the original color of the wood. But you've already figured that out.
1 August 2023, 09:32
Bruce Huxtable
How on Earth did you wrap the PE around the tiny tubes? Piccie 64 shows how neatly you achieved this. Very impressed...
How on Earth did you wrap the PE around the tiny tubes? Piccie 64 shows how neatly you achieved this. Very impressed...
1 August 2023, 15:24
bughunter
Thank you mates!
Bruce, that is no tube - the axle is a robust 0.2mm nickel silver wire. The trick is to let the slotted brass sheet longer and put it into a PE folding tool. Then put the wire into the corner and bend one stripe after another around the wire until you have the hinge. Remove the wire, file it smaller/in good shape. Finally I added the control horn into the slot and feed the wire back. Secure it on the outsides with CA. So the hinge is still workable 😉
Thank you mates!
Bruce, that is no tube - the axle is a robust 0.2mm nickel silver wire. The trick is to let the slotted brass sheet longer and put it into a PE folding tool. Then put the wire into the corner and bend one stripe after another around the wire until you have the hinge. Remove the wire, file it smaller/in good shape. Finally I added the control horn into the slot and feed the wire back. Secure it on the outsides with CA. So the hinge is still workable 😉
1 August 2023, 15:32
bughunter
The platform is prepared now. Not too old, but used. Maybe some more spots of engine oil.
Used what I had at home: oil paints, very strongly diluted, as wash.
The platform is prepared now. Not too old, but used. Maybe some more spots of engine oil.
Used what I had at home: oil paints, very strongly diluted, as wash.
2 August 2023, 17:05
bughunter
Thank you very much mates!
This project forces me to redo things often. The first engine oil looks nice, so I added yesterday evening some more. Over night it dried, but it looks horrible: The spots were too large and had a bulging edge. Hard to remove, but I had to fix it.
I added also a picture of the final airscrew - after redo it two times, e.g. the clear paints on the wood comes of after masking for grey. The a big splash of paint while I tried to fix this - I removed the paint completely.
Murphy and his law acts always in background!
Thank you very much mates!
This project forces me to redo things often. The first engine oil looks nice, so I added yesterday evening some more. Over night it dried, but it looks horrible: The spots were too large and had a bulging edge. Hard to remove, but I had to fix it.
I added also a picture of the final airscrew - after redo it two times, e.g. the clear paints on the wood comes of after masking for grey. The a big splash of paint while I tried to fix this - I removed the paint completely.
Murphy and his law acts always in background!
3 August 2023, 15:25
bughunter
Now the big surprise: The Ship's Camel is finished!
All the little parts shown, and more, are merged to a wonderful model. Don't miss it:
Ship's Camel N6818 | Album by bughunter (1:48)
Now the big surprise: The Ship's Camel is finished!
All the little parts shown, and more, are merged to a wonderful model. Don't miss it:
Ship's Camel N6818 | Album by bughunter (1:48)
3 August 2023, 18:54
Hanno Kleinecke
This once more exceeds everything we saw you achieve up to now - to me it is utterly incomprehensive how you manage to attach all these superfine metal details ( lots of which you scratchbuilt of course) to your model in a superclean way, without ANY trace of glue remaining visible.
Admit it : You have a crew of quarterscale aircraft mechanics working for you in secret !
Phantastic modeling !
This once more exceeds everything we saw you achieve up to now - to me it is utterly incomprehensive how you manage to attach all these superfine metal details ( lots of which you scratchbuilt of course) to your model in a superclean way, without ANY trace of glue remaining visible.
Admit it : You have a crew of quarterscale aircraft mechanics working for you in secret !
Phantastic modeling !
4 August 2023, 06:25
bughunter
Kyle, again Murphy was involved in the paint job. I was not happy with my first try on the fuselage after thinking a good while I used alcohol to strip the paint from the fuselage completely and start a new try. So I have not taken many pictures and then this surprising finish comes in my mind 😉
Hanno, thank you very much for such extensive praise! I must admit that I often hate CA but I don't know an alternative thing. I use in many cases a smallest drop with a wire, if needed multiple times. And clean the wire always with a candle fire. For bigger amount of glue I use a split needle. I hope you will be able to see some of my models with your own eyes. I think that is even more impressive as the live view cannot be shown with the best camera.
Kyle, again Murphy was involved in the paint job. I was not happy with my first try on the fuselage after thinking a good while I used alcohol to strip the paint from the fuselage completely and start a new try. So I have not taken many pictures and then this surprising finish comes in my mind 😉
Hanno, thank you very much for such extensive praise! I must admit that I often hate CA but I don't know an alternative thing. I use in many cases a smallest drop with a wire, if needed multiple times. And clean the wire always with a candle fire. For bigger amount of glue I use a split needle. I hope you will be able to see some of my models with your own eyes. I think that is even more impressive as the live view cannot be shown with the best camera.
4 August 2023, 09:35
gorby
I shouldn't be surprised at the quality of your work after the years I've been looking at your builds....but I still am. Every detail is exceptional.
I shouldn't be surprised at the quality of your work after the years I've been looking at your builds....but I still am. Every detail is exceptional.
22 August 2023, 14:42
bughunter
Thank you for your nice words and your continued support over the years 👍, also behind the scenes 😉
Thank you for your nice words and your continued support over the years 👍, also behind the scenes 😉
22 August 2023, 16:14