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Erik De Smet (opadesmet)
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Thunderjet comparative build

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Decal design 
 

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Hobby Boss , started , easy to build and nice details , recessed panel lines 
 

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Just a little putty required , details in de UC bay 
 

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Heller , showing his age (1978) raised panel lines

I lost the canopy, so I will have to use the canopy of the Mistercraft kit 
 

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Mistercraft, not a copy of Heller, very basic, but the fuselage has recessed panel lines. I might combine this with the Heller kit. The same sprues can be found in "Plastyk" kit , in the "Gomix" kit  
 

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Mistercraft wings : no panel lines at all. The instructions in the kit do not fit the parts list and appear to be partially and shamelessly copied from Tamiya 
 

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Tamiya : has the reputation to be the best kit 
 

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Tamiya wing sprues : nice details in the UC bay 
 

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Pilot seat : 4 parts in the Tamiya kit, more basic in the others.  
 

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Cockpit interior : similar differences 
 

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Fuselage : The Heller kit has raised panels, Minicraft has recessed panel lines. I will build a hybrid model, combining the Minicraft fuselage parts with the better parts of Heller 
 

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Undercarriage : Tamiya detailed, Hobby Boss is OK, Minicraft is for the bin, except that I will use the wheels as those of Heller are too small 
 

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The cockpit , Tamiya : detailed, HB : I enhanced the pilot seat with some bits to make look like the TM seat; MC/H : seat made of HB spare and Heller headrest, a few details added on the panels; The Tamiya has a decal for the safety belts, but it looks "flat". I will add PE belts later in the 3 kits 
 

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U/C construction: Heller wheels too small / MC main wheels mofied, spare box front wheel; Hobby Boss : just a small correction , Tamiya : from the kit. I added a "hydraulicline" on all 3 with some Alu wire . 
 

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weight added under cockpitfloor in Tamiya and Helleer/MC . Hobbyboss has a solid fuselage 
 

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No real issues in the assembly : Mcraft nose had to be squeezed to fit to Heller nose ring; a few details enhanced on the Heller/MC and Hobbyboss ( exhaust made finer):
just a little Vallejo putty at some joints on all 3 kits. Canopies temporarily fitted and protected by liquid mask. Ready for the primer. 
 

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3 ladies in black 
 

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Previous built Hobbyboss F84E : I will try an upgrade (e.g. replacing the old decals) 
 

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Previous built Heller F84F : to be upgraded too 
 

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I removed the paint and decals of these two older builds with AK 186 paint stripper 
 

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All 5 models got the same treatment: black primer (AK) a top coat of Tamiya flat aluminium (lighter shade) and a bottom coat of a mix of AK gloss alumnium with AK gun metal (darker shade. Next step : sealing with Klear and a Panel wash 
 

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top and bottom of Hobbyboss models after wash with Tamiya panel liner and clean up with a paper towel with a bit of whitesprit. 
 

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The canopies : the MC windscreen is horrible, but I found a replacement in my spare box 
 

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Tamiya has a piece for (hydraulic? ) equipment in the canopy , Heller and MC too, but Hobbyboss lacks this piece. I used the MC part in the Hobbyboss build, otherwise it could be scratchbuilt. There is also a HUD (3parts) in the Tamiya kit, the others will need a lookalike with transparent sheet, hardly visible with a closed canopy. 
 

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home made decals for BAF thunderjet florennes & bierset (here in B/W) 
 

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home made decals for BAF thunderjet kleine brogel (here in B/W) 
 

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thunderjet F84G 3 sqn Florennes 
 

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This is the Heller kit  
 

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F84E Thunderjet 1 sqn Florennes  
 

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This is the Hobbyboss kit 
 

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F84G Thunderjet n° 26 squadron Kleine Brogel 
 

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This is the combination of the Polish crap kit (fuselage) with the Heller wings 
 

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F84G Thunderjet 27 sqn Kleine Brogel 
 

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This is also the Hobbyboss kit 
 

Opmerkingen

34 24 March 2023, 10:24
Jan Peters
Cool subject for a comparison build, will follow this 👀
I have the Tamiya kit in my stash, to build a Dutch version of course.
I had the Heller kit too, but felt it was too much work to bring it up to modern standards.
Looking forward to your progress Erik 👍🏻
24 March 2023, 10:39
Maciej Bellos
Watching!
24 March 2023, 13:18
Dave Flitton
Watching
24 March 2023, 21:06
Bernd Grün
Following!
29 March 2023, 12:33
Łukasz Gliński
Joining y'all here.
Erik, I think the Inplast/MrCrap is reverse-engineered copy actually. It appeared in the times when buying molds or production batches was too expensive for us down here. So they reverse-designed the new molds and use them since then (e g.my SR-53 and vacu Airacobra share identical origin)
29 March 2023, 21:46
Erik De Smet
Lukasz, The Heller kit is the original, with raised panel lines showing its age. Inplast made a "Polish" copy based on it with the same parts lay-out , but probably for a smaller injection machines. The recessed panel lines on the fuselage are good, all other parts are less than the original. I just bought one kit for a bargain price as I lost the canopy of my Heller kit. All other Polish and Czech versions of this kit appear to come from the same moulds with other decals .
30 March 2023, 15:02
Andy Ball
Ambitious and informative- like it!
2 April 2023, 18:42
Erik De Smet
I had two older moldels (Heller and Hobbyboss) in my collection , and I stripped the decals and paint with AK paint stripper. I am quite impressed by the quality of this product : easy to apply with a brush, paint and decals get loose within minutes and can be wiped of with a paper towel and no agression of the plastic, even on the canopy.
6 April 2023, 13:01
Jan Peters
This is becoming quite a collection of thunderjets Erik 👍🏻
6 April 2023, 13:43
Carlo
Excellent work on presenting the variability of kits, well done. You have convinced me to do my Thunder Streak/Jet/Flash kits(Testors/HobbyBoss/Sword) all at the same time when it's their turn.
6 April 2023, 15:07
Erik De Smet
My decal design shows some errors, mainly on the serial numbers and the KB tail colors, so I can only finish this with a reprint of the decals.
19 April 2023, 15:08
Curatorm
Thanks for this comparaison work 🙂 Well done!
25 August 2023, 12:02
Guy Rump
Great collection. 👍
25 August 2023, 13:41

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Building 3 thunderjets in Belgian Markings and upgrading 2 older models of the same plane

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