F-86D Mirror mirror - WIP
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43 19 June 2014, 13:14
Bernhard SchrockMirror look.... I'm curious about. Have you chosen the paint for this project Nikolajs? P.s. Many years ago I tried my hand at a racer (Georgia Mae) with Mr metal from Gunze Sangyo. modellversium.de/gal..ustang-hasegawa.html
22 June 2014, 20:02
Nikolajs NegerissHi my friend!
Good question! 🙂 I am curious myself - that's my challenge. Cause this time it's not a bike and should save all panel lines and rivets. So, the paint coat should be relatively thin. Gunze paints are good and Supermetallic Chrome Plate is certainly a good option.
What I learned from painting "mirror chrome" is that you should have very smooth glossy surface as a base. And then you can basicly have to choose right chrome paint, which will givu you mirror effect and will have good adhesion to the base coat. And then chrome effect should stay after final clear coat layer.. 3 layers in total... before decals/wash... and then another layer. I really should find same nano-technology for that 🙂
23 June 2014, 08:06
Nikolajs NegerissAnd Mustang looks amazing!!! Although I plan to achieve even more "reflective" surface. Which paint was that? Mr. Color 212? Did you use any base coats?
23 June 2014, 08:07
Bernhard SchrockHi Nikolajs, Mr metal stainless steel. It is a buffing product. Polishing with a cloth produced very shiny look. While polishing the surface you need clothes -🙁 and when you ready it is necessary to seal the coat. No base coats, only pure plastic= no problem with dust particles or "orange peel look".
23 June 2014, 19:59
Edgars BizūnsLooks good, now I know why you told that there was a lot of filler on the nose section. I guess this will turn out really nice!
8 July 2014, 14:27
John Van KootenI'm not sure if this is of use to you guys but there is an instruction video that specifically targets painting bare metal airplanes. I can highly recommend it if you can get it. It's this one:
www.squadron.com/Master-Class-Technique-Briefing-1-Natural-Metal-p/vc1002.htm
The instructor, Floyd Werner, has done several videos (all of which I have) and he's really good. He explains everything very well.
In the case of creating bare metal surfaces he uses Alclad II Aluminum (in various shades). It does require a particular method of setting up layers but it's really looking very good on the finished model! Here's an example from the video. Maybe a bit hard to see in this screen grab but in the video, with moving pictures, it looks amazing and very shiny!
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8 July 2014, 16:01
Nikolajs NegerissThank you John, I have seen this one. But thanks - now I know his name 🙂 Alclad2 is my favorite metallic paint. I have played a lot with different paints of this brand after that video - it was really inspiring.
In regards to Alclad Chrome (or Airframe Alluminium) mirror effect there are few pre-conditions. One of them is base paint layer. It should be super glossy. And I can't get it with Alclad Gloss Black. Usually I apply layer of gloss clear coat and polish it well. And second thing is clear coar over mirror surface. It is kind of art to NOT kill mirror effect even with relevant clear coat (water-based is recommended, although best result I got with auto 2K clearcoat called R-M Crystal). So, all in all you get several layers and may loose some rivets and panel lines before doing wash and weathering...
In this terms Mr. Supermetallic could be better. But I will try both on the scratch plastic to see what fits best for my purpose 🙂
8 July 2014, 20:31
Nikolajs NegerissThank you Christian. That is how you apply experience in motorbikes into jets 😄
10 May 2016, 11:37
Hanno KleineckeHighly amazing polished metal effect. The Powder that you mentioned, is it comparable to Uschi van der Rosten`s Metal polishing powders ( uschivdr.com/shoppin..lic-colors-pigments/ )?
It´s interesting that you sprayed Alclad Chrome over it with no issues. I will try that in a future project as well, as it obviously worked very well .
10 May 2016, 12:05
Nikolajs NegerissMy pleasure Hanno, that was my ultimate goal in this project. I never tried Uschi's powder and on the pictures I can't tell thaat result is same good as with Kosutte. I should admit that Kosutte is not on sale and is very hard to find. By you can get very similar powder MGM Magic Powder: Ebay.com Item - MGM Prime Electroplating Powder For Bandai Gundam Model Orphans Anyway, you can try Uschi's powder if you have it. Just prepare surface well to get really glossy mirroring black base. This step is most important 😉 After that most of the powders will give similar results. And the result is a bit too dark. That's why I use Alclad Chrome (or AK xTreme Chrome) on top - just to change a shade.
Thank you Choppa! Never though that metallic finish could be sexy... LOL
11 May 2016, 05:04
Nikolajs Negeriss😄 One of my friends is building Saab 32 Lancen. His wife had strange association with that. I do not know why, but google for some pics and make you own opinion 🙂
11 May 2016, 08:34
David R. MeizosoThis is high level craftmanship and a pleasure to watch. Glad it came back so new mates can discover it! Congrats!
22 August 2023, 20:40
Michael Kohlloads of work, but amazing result. I was going to ask whether you do not have difficulties masking your paint and I never see someone paint over a pigmented surface, but the effect proves you right. Excellent build.
23 August 2023, 17:36
Nikolajs NegerissHi Michael, thank you for kind words.
Yes, I face some problems with masks. First of all, Chrome-painted areas are very sensitive and I tried to minimize stickiness of masks by applying on my hands couple of times.
Second, I use cellophane film to protect large areas around piece of model where I paint with stencil masks. This allows to minimize amount of masking tape used and therefore minimize risk of chrome surface distortion.
Also I had 2 sets of masking stencils from different tape. And I found that one of tapes impact surface too bad. And good one was Oramask 810. And I use it for other projects too.
And of cause I had to be very pedant in preparation of surface for every layer of paint starting from primer till chrome - this was to ensure paint will have enough adhesion and will not peal off when I remove masking tape from surface.
Working with masking stencils is not easy task but it opens a lot of possibilities for creativity.
Good luck to all,
Nik
25 August 2023, 06:12
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