McDonnell XP-67 Moonbat
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96 31 August 2023, 15:27
Robert Podkoński
Taking a seat! (Vacuum formed kits are far beyond my patience and skills...)
Taking a seat! (Vacuum formed kits are far beyond my patience and skills...)
31 August 2023, 16:07
J35J
Thanks Robert!
Well, this is my first vacuum kit so I feel quite humble starting the build.
I'm also planning to use some parts from a P-61 kit (props and landing gear) that seems to be a decent match at a first glance.
Any advice or best practice from all mates regarding vacuum formed kits are welcome.
Thanks Robert!
Well, this is my first vacuum kit so I feel quite humble starting the build.
I'm also planning to use some parts from a P-61 kit (props and landing gear) that seems to be a decent match at a first glance.
Any advice or best practice from all mates regarding vacuum formed kits are welcome.
31 August 2023, 17:14
Isaac Kite
Now that is a really RARE Rareplane. Wishing you great success with this curious beast.
Now that is a really RARE Rareplane. Wishing you great success with this curious beast.
23 October 2023, 14:35
J35J
Thanks Isaac Kite, Ben M and Michael Kohl for your kind comments.
To get things even more intresting it turned out the kit was incomplete with missing horisontal stabilizor parts.
So if any mates out there have some Junkers JU88 stabilizor parts in 1/72 I'm all ears. 😀
Thanks Isaac Kite, Ben M and Michael Kohl for your kind comments.
To get things even more intresting it turned out the kit was incomplete with missing horisontal stabilizor parts.
So if any mates out there have some Junkers JU88 stabilizor parts in 1/72 I'm all ears. 😀
23 October 2023, 17:09
S M
Found this project late so I'm taking a back seat. Cool subject and vacu-kits are very interesting. Did you add any internal support into the model? And if you don't find any spare stabilators you could scratch build them easily from styrene sheets.
Found this project late so I'm taking a back seat. Cool subject and vacu-kits are very interesting. Did you add any internal support into the model? And if you don't find any spare stabilators you could scratch build them easily from styrene sheets.
4 January, 20:43
J35J
Welcome S M,
As mentioned before it my first vacu-kit encounter so it is quite intresting to get the feel for it compared with a "normal" kit. Also good training for the building skills.
Regarding internal support I put in four plastic sheets as I had to create the air intakes for the engines.
Thanks for the advice regarding the stabilisators. I will have a final go in my stash to see if there is something that can work with some mods, otherwise scratchbuild.
Welcome S M,
As mentioned before it my first vacu-kit encounter so it is quite intresting to get the feel for it compared with a "normal" kit. Also good training for the building skills.
Regarding internal support I put in four plastic sheets as I had to create the air intakes for the engines.
Thanks for the advice regarding the stabilisators. I will have a final go in my stash to see if there is something that can work with some mods, otherwise scratchbuild.
4 January, 22:23
J35J
Thank you Cuajete & Michael for you comment
@S M - Yes! I found some stabs from an old DH Hornet kit that fitted perfect after some minor adjustments.
Next step will be to take a stab at the cockpit. I should had cut out the entire cockpit bay and sorted the scratchbuild for that before glueing together the fuselage…
Thank you Cuajete & Michael for you comment
@S M - Yes! I found some stabs from an old DH Hornet kit that fitted perfect after some minor adjustments.
Next step will be to take a stab at the cockpit. I should had cut out the entire cockpit bay and sorted the scratchbuild for that before glueing together the fuselage…
10 January, 14:20
J35J
Thanks mates for all nice comments
@S M - indeed the white metal parts was a good investment. Took some time to hunt them down.😅
Thanks mates for all nice comments
@S M - indeed the white metal parts was a good investment. Took some time to hunt them down.😅
20 January, 15:44
Robert Podkoński
Looks like you're seeing the finish line now, J35J 😉 I am impressed with your skills and perseverance - myself, I am not patient enough to tackle vacuum-formed kits...
Looks like you're seeing the finish line now, J35J 😉 I am impressed with your skills and perseverance - myself, I am not patient enough to tackle vacuum-formed kits...
23 February, 07:12
Gary Kitchen
Fabulous work and a very interesting subject. Agree with Skyhiker surely an inspiration for later Bat Wings. One question, will the metal props be sufficient weight-wise to avoid tail-sitting or did I miss a nose weight going in. I only ask because I'm having a pig of time trying to get enough weight into an Airfix Mig17.
Fabulous work and a very interesting subject. Agree with Skyhiker surely an inspiration for later Bat Wings. One question, will the metal props be sufficient weight-wise to avoid tail-sitting or did I miss a nose weight going in. I only ask because I'm having a pig of time trying to get enough weight into an Airfix Mig17.
23 February, 07:21
J35J
Thanks Robert for very kind words. 🙏🏼😀
Yes, you have to put in some more patience, spare parts from other kit's and research to knock out the details, otherwise it is pretty straight forward.
As you have already completed some Unicraft kits you can easly take on a vacc kit.👍🏻
Thanks Robert for very kind words. 🙏🏼😀
Yes, you have to put in some more patience, spare parts from other kit's and research to knock out the details, otherwise it is pretty straight forward.
As you have already completed some Unicraft kits you can easly take on a vacc kit.👍🏻
23 February, 08:44
J35J
Thanks Gary for your comments. Yes, tail sitters is a pain in the ….
Regarding this kit I had to be creative with where to put in extra weight. After some thoughts I decided to put it in the engine nacelles as these are quite long and had some distance form the main wheels.
I understand your situation with the Mig. There is not much space for extra weight. Have you considered the product "Liquid Gravity"?
Thanks Gary for your comments. Yes, tail sitters is a pain in the ….
Regarding this kit I had to be creative with where to put in extra weight. After some thoughts I decided to put it in the engine nacelles as these are quite long and had some distance form the main wheels.
I understand your situation with the Mig. There is not much space for extra weight. Have you considered the product "Liquid Gravity"?
23 February, 09:10
Michael Kohl
Liquid gravity is rather expensive. A similar but cheap method is to purchase lead granules (<1mm). You can mix them with Elmers glue and you have liquid gravity for a fraction of the price.
Liquid gravity is rather expensive. A similar but cheap method is to purchase lead granules (<1mm). You can mix them with Elmers glue and you have liquid gravity for a fraction of the price.
23 February, 11:53
Gary Kitchen
Thanks J35J and Michael- i have the liquid gravity arriving but yes very expensive- I'll try the lead granules next time 👍
Thanks J35J and Michael- i have the liquid gravity arriving but yes very expensive- I'll try the lead granules next time 👍
23 February, 14:04
S M
I would recommend tungsten fishing weights because they weight more than lead, but are more expensive.
I would recommend tungsten fishing weights because they weight more than lead, but are more expensive.
23 February, 22:10
J35J
Thanks mates!
Yes, the white metal version is a little thin. Currently thinking about if I should "beef up" the front wheel leg or just leave it as is.
Thanks mates!
Yes, the white metal version is a little thin. Currently thinking about if I should "beef up" the front wheel leg or just leave it as is.
28 February, 16:11
J35J
Thanks Łukasz! 👍🏻
It coming nice together after all work.
There no varnish on yet, according to pictures flat varnish seems to be the the way forward. Some final decisions need to be made.
Thanks Łukasz! 👍🏻
It coming nice together after all work.
There no varnish on yet, according to pictures flat varnish seems to be the the way forward. Some final decisions need to be made.
3 March, 12:05
CaptGPF
Only cow! That's neat! I didn't even know vacuum kits existed - and the work in progress certainly makes it look like a regular plastic kit!
Only cow! That's neat! I didn't even know vacuum kits existed - and the work in progress certainly makes it look like a regular plastic kit!
4 March, 00:51
Pierre Pierre
I agree with Cuajete, Łukasz and Neil 😛 impressive vaccum result so far !
I agree with Cuajete, Łukasz and Neil 😛 impressive vaccum result so far !
4 March, 05:39
J35J
Project completed! First vacc kit was a intresting experiance. Fun and challenging build. Will certainly build some more vacc's in my stash.
Project completed! First vacc kit was a intresting experiance. Fun and challenging build. Will certainly build some more vacc's in my stash.
16 March, 13:05
gorby
I would never have believed that this started as a vacform kit. Outstanding work.
I would never have believed that this started as a vacform kit. Outstanding work.
16 March, 15:11
J35J
Many thanks for all kind comments. Means a lot!
Bringing a 45 year old kit to life was as quite a journey.
Many thanks for all kind comments. Means a lot!
Bringing a 45 year old kit to life was as quite a journey.
16 March, 20:42
Skyhiker
Nice rare bird. Vac kits are a lot of work but when you get them finished it is really rewarding. Congratulations.
Nice rare bird. Vac kits are a lot of work but when you get them finished it is really rewarding. Congratulations.
17 March, 10:53
J35J
Thank you S M for kind words!
The kit turned out well after some up's and down's during the build.
Thank you S M for kind words!
The kit turned out well after some up's and down's during the build.
18 March, 09:41
Derek Buckmaster
You've done a wonderful job with that! Not too many kits around with the fuselage split into top & bottom halves, but perfectly logical for this bird.
You've done a wonderful job with that! Not too many kits around with the fuselage split into top & bottom halves, but perfectly logical for this bird.
18 March, 10:17
Rui Reis
That is great work and even more so from a vacform kit! I love the Moonbat, it's a beautiful plane and your build does it justice.
That is great work and even more so from a vacform kit! I love the Moonbat, it's a beautiful plane and your build does it justice.
19 March, 22:10
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The McDonnell XP-67 "Bat" or "Moonbat" was a prototype for a twin-engine, long-range, single-seat interceptor aircraft for the United States Army Air Forces.
Although the design was conceptually advanced, it was beset by numerous problems and never approached its anticipated level of performance.
The project was cancelled after the sole completed prototype was destroyed by an engine fire.