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Thomas Corbel
Seriously....... Another P51???
Ok, spit, P51 and other spitmesserstang are nice really, but really fade up to see always the same plane of the WWII... Sorry but it's really 'boring'!....
Eduard are you aware that there are a lot of plane to build than those you duplicate in eveeery variant?
Just a small exemple, there is not A10 at the current std in the 72 scale?.. And you no what Mr 'rabbit', thare many other planes (su17, su22, f9, f101, F100...)
Open you eyes because history and model kits opportunities is not limited to the 6 years of the WWII...
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6 5 January, 18:12
Lukas .
Your opinion is completely wrong and the boss of the company keeps repeating it over and over again. To produce the models of your choice would bankrupt the company. That is if they wanted to produce them with the same care and quality as they do their main production. Into this came the covid, then the Russian aggression in Ukraine and the attack on Europe by closing off gas leading to an energy crisis. This led to a huge increase in all costs. I guess you can understand that the huge increase in the cost of electricity, plastic and paper is a problem for a company making plastic models. We're in an economic crisis. Because of this they have had to put many projects on hold and concentrate on those that will sell best. And the more models they sell, the better the company will do and they will be able to invest in the future. Worldwide kit sales have fallen off a lot, so they're going to make what will always sell. And they'll leave the types (like your suggestion) to other manufacturers that can reasonably sell them.
7 January, 13:56
Lukas .
I wish there were many other types, too. Especially those related to local military aviation. But there's no hope of getting them. Like the MiG-19. Czechoslovakia produced them under license. In the 1950s, we were one of the few countries that could produce a supersonic fighter. But I'm not gonna see them produce the kit. The MiG-19 fought in Vietnam. Why haven't Chinese companies made a 1/72nd scale model of them to this day? It's an important aircraft for China.
Or the MiG-17. A lot of the design processes from the MiG-15 could be used to produce the F version. And then make radar versions. But why didn't Polish companies do it? The MiG-17 is as important to Polish history as the 19 is to Czech history. And they don't make the kit. Arma Hobby made the Iskra. And then they went mainstream at a premium prices.

So it's sad, but Eduard will now produce Mustangs, Spitfires, Bf 109s, P-40s, Stukas. And then one very unexpected type from the Axis states. Which absolutely surprised me, because I wouldn't have thought of it at all. But I found that out from them by mistake, and as far as I know, there was no mention of it anywhere or on local discussions. That's why I can't reveal it. Of the mainstream types, I will hope to see an Me-262 in the future. The museum in Prague has both a single-seat and a two-seat version, so there is a possibility to examine them in detail.
7 January, 14:27
Thomas Corbel

Bon. Je vais le faire en français car j'ai pas franchement envie de répondre en anglais pour le coup....
Ce n'est pas une opinion c'est une remarque et ma remarque sur le fait que de se tapper une centaine de modèle toujours identique soit chiante n'est pas erronée d'après moi.. Ben je vois pas en quoi l'Ukraine viendrait changer les mentalités limitée de tout ces types qui frissonnent devant la énième soit disant maquette définitive sur spit messer stang.....
Navré poto, cette vision du modelisme est chiante au possible et terriblement ennuyante (c'est comme revoir le même film 1000 fois....)...
Ce n'est pas une opinion, c'est mon point de vue...
Après tout, si ça fait plaisir au gens de monter 1000 fois le même modèle, grand bien leur fasse même si je trouve ça bas de plafond (bon courage à Google translate 😂)
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7 January, 22:28
Michael Kohl
I agree that it is boring, but I think that Eduard is doing it right. Doing mainstream models that sell to (co-)finance less mainstream subjects. Look at their line of Czech themes all done with love (and quite a bit of EU-funding).
8 January, 09:08
Thomas Corbel
I know.... And I think so... But it's not a reason to be satisfied of this limited vision of our hobby...
Myy first comment was like a a big 'Ras le bol' (French expression ...).

Ok, I understand... But explain me where is the pleasure to be focus on a SOS mall period when you be aware of the opportunities our hobby can offer? I think that in english you said 'to be a bit slow on the uptake'...

Yes, it's boring...... À lot
8 January, 17:30
Lukas .
Michael:
You're right, it is. Thanks to the mainstream, there's money for projects that are made for local history.

Aircraft like the Z-37 Čmelák, the Zlín x26 Trenér , the Kuňkadlo, the future Blaník, these are not really WW2 aircraft.
The Avia 534 and the Mezek S-199 are sold mainly on the Czech market. Even the MiG-21 is sold mainly on the Czech market after all.

It's just a bit pointless talking about the EU subsidies. This makes it sound like some company from the Czechia is making a business out of subsidies from Western EU countries. In fact, Eduard built a factory in one of the poorest areas of the country. In a place where there are excluded localities. And they gave jobs to many unemployed people. And many Roma residents. And that's much better than creating total no-go zones, which many countries including Fr and De are struggling with. In many places all over Europe EU subsidies are being stolen for pointless projects, but this is not the case.
And Eduard is a huge supporter of the whole modelling industry too. And the kids too. They subsidise modelling clubs and competitions, and give out large numbers of kits to children every year.
9 January, 22:16
Lukas .
Thomas: Why are you focusing on Eduard? You have dozens of other companies that make beautiful and interesting models. What about the Bloch 210 from Special Hobby (for Azur), won't that be a hit?

If you want fancy, ditch the planes. Look to Japan. There, over the last 50 years, not thousands, but literally tens of thousands of different kits have been created with totally open minds. Why not build an aircraft carrier on a Formula One chassis? With rocket engines. They're inventing kits like that over there. And it's not boring.
9 January, 22:22
Shar Dipree
A P51D in 1/72 in at least the same quality, especially when it comes to the outer skin, as Arma Hobbys P51 B/C? I would buy it immediately (as long as the price is not exorbitantly high). The one from Arma Hobby is the benchmark for me. Maybe Eduard can do it, I would trust them.
9 January, 22:34
Rando
I felt this way when I first saw this one as well. I have my own pet subjects that I'm pounding the table to see made. But others here made a lot of good points so I understand it from a business perspective. I just want to see an early version F-8 in 1/48 since the conversion kits are gone.
9 January, 22:37
Thomas Corbel
I don't focus on eduard... All my apology for this...
Effectively I should focus on peoples that buy only spitmesserstang.... You're Wright on this, I confess.
Has I said, eduard make really beautifully kits...but you can admit that eduard had a looot of 109, spit and so on....
In fact, it is a complete boring of these particular topic for me... and eduard is not the root cause... I was just jaded when I saw the 'new' from eduard!
When you visit a model expo, you always see the same thing...
The question is : it's always the same topic because many people are focus on WW2 and can't see anything else? Or if they had the opportunity to open their eyes they should take the opportunity to built something else....unfortunately, I think it's because many modeler are 'limited' to a strict vision... I heard many time some modeler saying ' there is nothing else than WW2 kit (tiger, panther sherman...), the rest is not interesting....'
It's the reason why I am really frustrated because there are so many thing to built....
Ok, business is business.... But once again, it's not a reason to stay mute about this....

Please, forgive my English... I do my best with the desire not to use Google translate 😉, training is the best way to learn and progress.
10 January, 08:48
Eric Thornton
I don't know how I feel about the subscription for some of the Limited Edition kits. Yet another subscription of the many I already have doesn't sit that well with me. I suppose I could cancel some subscriptions and sign up for Eduard's. My only concern is the shipping from Europe for these Limited Editions. If they do this they should have a distributor in the US for these subscription-only kits so we aren't stuck with insane shipping prices from Europe.
10 January, 10:41
Jan Janssen
Hi Eric, we have the same from items out of the US,.. plus if it gets true customs and you are lucky being picked-out extra VAT makes it useless to buy anything from the US
16 January, 18:55
Tony May
I admit that the Muscherfire has become something of a meme in the industry. That said there are so many paint schemes for those three families of aircraft that regardless of whether it's a new modeler or a seasoned one; They will always have something interesting they can do with it! Furthermore these are arguably the most iconic military aircraft in air combat history. All three aircraft families are a safe bet for a model industry.

I admit that pretty much every kit you've mentioned here are those which I'd love to try on for size, especially from Eduard, but I already miss out on about half of the Eduard kits I'd like to obtain & build. Never mind all the goodies that come out under the Valom, Azur, Special Hobby, AZ Models, etc.!

Aside from a few starter Snap-Tite kits, my first real model was a Monogram 1/72 P-51B Mustang in it's "Mini-Masterpieces" release & that was all it took to get me hooked. Now there are exceptions to the Muscherfire rule of drawing constant interest. I know that seeing models of aircraft, that were very obviously WW2 types I'd never heard of, were some of the greatest eureka moments in my late childhood. The three that come to mind most strongly were the Testors 1/72 Junkers Ju-86E (K) in Hungarian markings, the Matchbox 1/72 Heinkel He-70/170 (70K) in Hungarian markings & the Heller 1/72 Caudron C.714. These remain three of my most favorite types of airplanes, an echo of that elation I felt, upon discovering them without a movie or book but rather by the shelves of my local hobby shop.

Having said all that I have the Muscherfire equation MIGHT be outdated. Let's be honest with ourselves here. Most young people that are coming into our hobby are being drawn in via the video games that they play. Things like World of Warplanes, World of Tanks, World of Warships, War Thunder & Roblox: Steel Titans draw them like moths to a flame. Finding out what these game players are looking to represent in scale may be a real boon for manufacturers. Especially if decal options for popular "skins" are offered. Even my own son initially got hooked on military aircraft & AFVs through games like this. My hobby interested him but it wasn't until he associated what I was doing with the things he saw when playing on his mother's laptop years ago that he became interested in building models.
11 March, 08:07

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