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me109g10
Whats that? Villers Bocage is 40KM from Wittmanns last battle. So the Marketing makes no sense again. Just to grab cash from people who know nothing about the Normandy battle and just know Wittmann and heard of the town Villers Bocage.... Also it is highly disputed that a Firefly shot Wittmanns Tiger 007, it is more likely that it was a regular british Sherman with a 75mm from behind left. You can check out Youtube as a source where many great historians and analysts debate about the evidence and which unit was where. So as a closure: Wittmann became a propaganda tool because of a battle at Villers Bocage on 13 June 44. He was killed 40KM East at Saint-Aignan-de-Cramesnil almost 2 MONTHS! later. So this package is just a cash grab done by the marketing dept. since his LAST battle was not even close (In the context of the normandy battle) to Villers Bocage. Grüße
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4 22 August 2024, 07:41
Chris Derksen
Was in a completely different Tiger at Villers Bocage to boot.
1  29 August 2024, 14:53
me109g10 Autor
exactly! He was in a normal Tiger (Number is not clear to date, could be 212, 205, 232 or another) and the Tiger in which he died was a Befehlspanzer with 007 number.
 29 August 2024, 19:42
Herr Migraenz
The whole "Wittman at Bocage" thing is also a fable in its entirety yet nobody really cares (because reading is boring and hard duuuh). Also, Bocage wasn't the fame earner for Michael, he became uncle Addie's poster boy long prior to that.
As per the Tiger acing, revisionists and wehrmacht apologists to this very day parrot the "SHERMAN COULD NEVER KILL A TIGER" mythos and happen to be the loudest at it. There are several reports (although I no longer have links, so you're free to doubt) of 75mm knocking tigers out, both on Eastern and Western fronts, but don't you even dare challenge the narrative!

1  26 April, 13:41
me109g10 Autor
Yeah Herr Migraenz There is a theory by that Wittman was killed by a 75mm Sherman from the lleft flank. Just search for WW2TV on Youtube. briliant youtuber that ahs many leading authors of ww2 books on his channel and they do a 1hr powerpoint of the books they wrote. Great stuff for free that would be thousands of euros in books. Grüße
1  28 April, 13:37
Herr Migraenz
Yeah, Paul is definitely better than most buffoons on the platform these days.
To be entirely frank, I couldn't care less about what offed Wittman for I don't find him particularly to be awfully interesting. Just like Rudel, Michael was little more than an upstart overutilized by Propagandaministerium. He is still being credited to this day with all the kills of the Villers Bocage battle, when in reality all these loses were dealt by an entire panzer abteilung, which over 2 following days got nearly entirely wiped out by American artillery, meanwhile Wittman only took out a half-track and damaged ONE Cromwell CS. Makes you think how bloated his kill count actually is.
All I'm saying is, Sherman's 75mm was a very capable gun especially in the most crucial of its roles - supporting breakthroughs with some excellent HE shells, while APs were definitely capable of taking on Teutonic armor here and there.

Back to the topic at hand, I do wholly support your notion, Dragon's re-boxing practices are frankly mildly unpleasant and have been this way for quite the period now. Adam Mann did a review on Tauchpanzer III H 6775 nearly a decade ago which does good job at outlining the issues: they just want to re-pack whatever they can, toss a heap of sprews in, sprinkle whatever decals in and still charge you 50 bucks for it! Big shame. I love Dragon, they are among the most competent on the market, they know whom to take advice from, but marketing and business practices are subpar lately (not to mention the complete absence of entirely new kits).
TLDR, cheers to you indeed!
1  28 April, 14:12
me109g10 Autor
😄 Yeah Paul is great. Nice to see another modeller with a similar viewpoint. Just to note that Dragon is from China so they have a different view point on our european "troubles" from the last century. Same as almost nobody here knows anything that happened in China and who did what etc. Its just the usual take like a Hollywood movie with headlines because somebody connects the Fletcher Destroyer to the Atlantic battle and boom you have Greyhound with psycho Uboats and stuff that never happened and is not even possible (Like the Kommandant talking like a creap to some random frequency that happened to be the ont that the destroyer has on loudspeaker and stuff). 😄 my 2 cents. Cheers and have a great one and fun modellng 🙂
1  28 April, 16:17
Herr Migraenz
Hollywood alone has done more damage to history and public perception of it as well ensuring the incessant violation of sanity for anyone remotely interested in actual studies than the likes of Halder and Manstein ever achieved with their "It was all Ay-dolph, I swear to Gott!". Fury alone featured so many ill prepared segments (every scene featuring combat is purely idiotic and fictitious, not just the tank ambush fragment), it almost feels insulting to the poor old 131.
1  28 April, 21:06
me109g10 Autor
yeah I hated Fury tbh. I really dislike it BUT I have info on the combat scenes: They used the only Tiger in the world currently driving and they thought that it was too bad to just have it sit in ambush and kill all shermans from the distance so they had the Tiger drive and give it a more action. The Tank museum was all for this since they are so proud of their verhicle being a star and showing off as onlyone left in the world. So I can see this in the movie that is shit all over. 😄 It did not make it more bad since it was already below zero 😄
1  28 April, 23:16
Herr Migraenz
They could have came up with something more elaborate like 131 shooting up a Sherman or two, driving off scene then getting strafed/artillery struck or even chased down by Fury - all that would make sense in the setting. The use of lone tigers was actually not uncommon in the late war, I think MilitaryHistoryVisualized did a video demonstrating reports in which battalion and other commanders/NCOs had complained of these practices (they were very often lost in such deathrides). Not only 131 is still driving, Bovingtonians keep it in near pristine conditions so kudos to them. I can also get behind the idea of supplying ignorant movie makes with tanks, they probably made a very good buck from it
1  29 April, 15:21

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