SCM Groupbuild - Matchbox Nostalgia

Stefan Schneider
Just a hint. If you name your album after the event e.g. "SCM Groupbuild - Matchbox Nostalgia" it will be automatically attached to the event and anyone can have a look at it by navigating at the event page:
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Peter Jenssen
Ok.
Done! 🙂

Hunter Cummins
Im in

Bill Gilman
Me too. I've had my eye on this one as a companion to the PB4Y-1 that I'm building. I always thought the -2 was a much cooler bird. I love that big Erco turret out front and the "eyeball" blisters on the rear fuselage sides.

Peter Jenssen
..-Meet the crew!
Just started this build..

Bruce Leyland-Jones
Matchbox always did nice crew. You've painted them very nicely indeed.

Marc Schimmler
A different approach to the PB4Y-2 compaed to my build. I like it.

Peter Jenssen
Done some more work on this one.
Matchbox Groupbuild is over, -perhaps transfer to 'Naval Aviation'? 🙂

Christopher Bowling
Well done.

Peter Jenssen
Thanks,
-Attaching the tail fin.
Some problems here:
First the fuselage sides did not match up right at the root of the fin.
Then, when fitting the fin, I had to force it quite a bit to starboard in order to make it straight.
Will need a bit of putty and sanding..

Peter Jenssen
Wing dryfit. -This one needs a bit of display space..
Engines and propellers painted.
Engine nacelles will need quite a bit of putty.

Phil Marchese
As a point of reference, American WWII prop tips were omly 4" which in scale * means that there is virtually no sides to the yellow paint. a quick look at wartime photo can be useful. * (1/18"😢

Peter Jenssen
Thanks Phil,
The yellow tips are decals, but a dab of black paint should fix them up.
Cut down the yellow to about half is what I'm thinking?
(Looking at this one:
warbirdsresourcegroup.org/NARG/privateer.html )

Clifford Keesler
Looking good.

John Bollig
I have a couple of these and I an wondering how it fits

Peter Jenssen
Fit is not too bad, considering it is and old mould. (-It's not Tamiya.. 🙂 )
Wings need a bit of trimming to fit in their sockets, cockpit section needs some putty joining to the fuselage. There are some minor dimples here and there.
Care needs to be taken with the cockpit windows. -So far no show stoppers..
I was going to do the US markings, but they might be a bit questionable; Says in the instructions to represent a plane operating out of Palawan, Philippines.
Can not confirm this at all, rather 'Tortilla Flat' seems to have been an unarmed training plane at Camp Kearney, San Diego. Furthermore, it never had an Erco turret in the nose, but rather a Consolidated A6A.. 🙁
Should I care? -I haven't decided yet..

John Bollig
I have done some research on the privateer and many were equipped with the Bat bomb. I am going to make mine with the bat bomb. I can also confirm that that the plane was used in the Palawan area. As far as it not being tamiya, frankly I am not worried. My two privateers are both matchbox originals. So, they were from the first mouldings.

Phil Marchese
I did quick review on this kit about a 2 mos ago for Hunter for another build. A search might bring it up. bottom linej good baseline kit except outer nacelles...passable OTB.

Peter Jenssen
Thanks;
I know, not a primary source, but some pictures anyway:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/149674/thread/1253661423/Revell+Germany+1-72+PB4+Y-2+Privateer...

Peter Jenssen
Hi Phil, I found that the yellow prop tips increased from 4" to 6" in 1944.
That still means the Revell tips are about 30% too much. Perhaps reduce to about 2mm?
Your thoughts?
(Bureau of Aeronautics, SR-2d, "Specification for Exterior Colors, Insignia and Markings of Naval Aircraft" of 22 December 1943)

Phil Marchese
You ref picture did seem bigger than 4"l...the main concern is to avoid the paralle sides look so many models show...those can throw off the finished overall effect quickly. I think your " sufficently sensitized."

Peter Jenssen
Thanks Phil,
I had simply put the supplied decals on without checking. They were obviously too big.
I have now reduced them. Hopefully this will look more realistic.
Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Phil Marchese
Looking forward to seeing this 2X4 . I like this plane. If you have a fine airbrush and are comfortable with its capabilities, many Privateers are in the true blended counter shaded scheme. see my PB2Y-5 Coronado as an example in 1:72.

Peter Jenssen
Thanks Phil,
I like the Coronado. I'll probably do something similar for the camo scheme on this one.
I have an old Badger dual action with swappable different size needles/nozzles.
I bought the Italeri WWII US Navy paint set and I'm trying it out now.
Good coverage, practical packaging. It was drying a bit too quickly and had a tendency to form little tiny strings (like dust particles) and start clogging the nozzle after a couple of minutes.
Found out afterwards that this paint should NOT be thinned with alcohol..
-Great! So next time I will not use Tamiya acrylic thinner (which smells distinctly of alcohol), I'll try a bit of distilled water instead.
Forgot to take picture. Will do that next time.

Peter Jenssen
Painting in progress pics..

Phil Marchese
Something nice is definitely emerging as is the basic soundness of matchbox. Nice progress.

Marc Schimmler
This one is also becoming nice!

Clifford Keesler
Looking very nice indeed.

Peter Jenssen
All colours on, not quite done yet.
Italeri paint behaved nicely when thinned with water.
Never use Tamiya acrylic thinners for Italeri Acrylics!
It kind of works, but water is better..

Hunter Cummins
I like the colrs you chose

Peter Jenssen
Thanks everyone!
Colour choice is courtesy of Italeri WWII Navy aircraft paint set.
Probably accurate enough for me, though the codes are in FS codes which I don't believe had been invented yet instead of ANA codes that can be found in WWII regulations??

I noticed in the building instructions that there is no yellow for the back of the propeller tips.
Not that it matters anyway as I'm planning to do some weathering.
Back of the propellers would probably get the brunt of any weathering, so no yellow paint tips needed there! 🙂

Phil Marchese
flickr.com/photos/th..8612/in/photostream/

An example of the full blending measure in which each of the colors were blended into the neighboring ones creating a five tone transitional scheme. Cover girl and peace feeler are also searchable,

Dave Flitton
Looking good so far

Peter Jenssen
Hi Phil,
Thanks for the tip and the links!
I mixed up two new colours; white + light blue, and light blue + dark blue and applied them in a streak between the existing colours.
I didn't actually get five tones, more a full fade effect from white to sea blue.
Not sure if this is correct. All picture of the original scheme that I can find are in black and white.
What do you think?

Peter Jenssen
Thanks Dave!

Marc Schimmler
I looked at my favourite (German) website for navy markings. A smooth transition is OK. Originally it was intended that the intermediate blue became a result of the mixture of sea blue and intermediate white. In reality they used intermediate blue directly ...

Phil Marchese
marc the blending measure were applied in various ways from time to time even on the same types. yes the Int blue was a base color however the reality is various blending meaures were used and that is was called out in spect. product rates dictated more economical ( efficent) methods but not to the exclusion of these other approaches in quantity examples on the large Patrol types.

Phil Marchese
Peter you got a nice counter blending. this was done various ways. it depends on the specific look you want. what you have certainly represents one historical version.

Marc Schimmler
Thanks Phil.

Peter Jenssen
Gloss coat applied and started on decals

Peter Jenssen
Aargh!
Stupid iPhone!
How did that happen?
(Sorry folks, will fix the rotation when I get to a proper computer)

Hunter Cummins
Its looking up to par
great job on her

Peter Jenssen
🙂
-Shark!

Holger Kranich
Great job, so far! Love your paintjob, real good work!

Phil Marchese
Someone else that decals at that stage! Yeah!

Phil Marchese
Having fun watching this nice built progress.

Clifford Keesler
Looking Great.

Peter Jenssen
I'll call this one done now, although I usually end up improving things occasionally..
A couple of pics uploaded, more to come..

Phil Marchese
Looking forward to seeing a few more angles. nice build!

Peter Jenssen
Some more pics. Realized while taking pictures that I forgot to rig the antenna..

Phil Marchese
You really brought out the good features of this kit in a great way. I like the 7/8 frontal starboard overhead view. thanks for letting us tag a long on this journey.

Peter Jenssen
Thanks!
Pretty straightforward build. needs a bit of putty and craving to make things fit right, but not too bad.
I don't have a lot of spare time, so builds tend to drag on for a bit.. 🙂
Put 5-6 decals on my Corsair last night.. :-/